The American crawl is back....

[Tripower455]

Jealous? Not hardly. I never wanted to work for a PFT Regional even if you do fly 737s and get paid $20 an hour more than me.

Your obsession and constant criticism of all things SW reveals the truth.

You want to talk, subpar job at subpar pay, talk to NEDude.

Why, we are discussing your subpar job that makes you think it's OK to gum up the works at any airport you fly to to make up a little bit of it. Not to mention your aforementioned obsession with WN.

BTW, how did any of you clowns become airline pilots and NOT know the difference between a mechanical failure and pilot error (twice!)...Yikes.

Oh, so do you taxi ridiculously slow for mechanical reasons, or is it pilot error?

 

[Mookie]

Your obsession and constant criticism of all things SW reveals the truth.




Why, we are discussing your subpar job that makes you think it's OK to gum up the works at any airport you fly to to make up a little bit of it. Not to mention your aforementioned obsession with WN.



Oh, so do you taxi ridiculously slow for mechanical reasons, or is it pilot error?

You guys think what he (Fubi) writes here is bad, you should read the threatening pm's he's sent me tonight.

Sorry for the thread hijack, American boys and gals. Good luck going fwd!

Mookie

 

[SWA Bubba]

You guys think what he (Fubi) writes here is bad, you should read the threatening pm's he's sent me tonight.

Sorry for the thread hijack, American boys and gals. Good luck going fwd!

Mookie

Just out of curiosity, how do you guys know who each other are? I know you can send a PM to any screen name, but you seem to know each other's real identity. Don't tell me Fubijaakr is his real name...

Bubba

 

[Mookie]

Just out of curiosity, how do you guys know who each other are? I know you can send a PM to any screen name, but you seem to know each other's real identity. Don't tell me Fubijaakr is his real name...

Bubba

He's known very very well amongst the pilot group in large part to his, shall we say, interesting control over the Jumpseat when he is operating a flight.

Mookie

 

[waveflyer]

I think both of you need to get this a bit more impersonal-
This is an anonymous forum and as much as Fubi has trashed me and my airline- I'd rather quit the innuendo and personal digs -
Debate the merits, not the person-

To that end and apologies for the drift as well AA-
Fubi, seniority is a very relative thing- some very "junior" pilots have vast life and airline experience- especially since 9/11- one does not need to be told to shut up bc he is junior- that's as narcissitic as I've seen on FI- cowardly at best- you are not better than your junior BECAUSE they're junior- you just got hired earlier- "IF" your opinion is more valid- the least of the reasons is seniority-
I don't know what threats you're issuing- but it all sounds terribly inappropriate. Free speech is free speech- and the anonymity of this forum is so people can be just that: FREE.
You ought to apologize for those kind of comments

 

[BigMeat]

As a platinum customer on AA(not by choice) how does this help the profession? AA's service is so terrible i avoid them at all cost. Missing my connection or whatever else is not appreciated. Sitting in the middle seat for an extra half hour so the cap can make a point is bs. I hope AA gets what it very much deserves in BK. Good day

You hit the nail on the head. Self destruction of your brand and performance. Retaliation for whatever shell is left of this career. Since the government binds us with the RLA and never releases us to self help, we find other ways.

 

[flygirlqt]

You guys think what he (Fubi) writes here is bad, you should read the threatening pm's he's sent me tonight.


Mookie

The veil of anonymity on a public forum is a useless defense of harassment for the above stated behavior or tort. A systematic pattern of harassment by an employee against another worker may also subject the employer to a lawsuit for failure to protect the worker.

 

[Quimby]

You're right. Had to check my logbook. One time. And you were a month off probation. Guess that's why you're so forgettable.

You might be surprised to find out how many of our guys agree with me.

When I was in the bottom 10% of the seniority list, I generally kept my "opinions" to myself.

So your co-worker isn't allowed to express an opinion because he's junior?

Are you really sending threatening PM's? What are you threatening?

 

[denny]

There are many ways to make a point. Taxiing slow is not one of them. Sitting at the gate makes a huge point because of all the people involved. In my career watching pilots trying to make a point with management I have seen only one thing happen: Slow down as much as possible on the ground but as soon as the wheels are in the well they'll take every direct offered and complain about speed reductions for spacing. It never fails.

If pilots want to make a point with the company and increase the block time then don't let the agent close the door. Take your time going over all the info for the flight. Do a thorough preflight, brief, review of the route, weather, etc. But taxiing slow? That doesn't do anything other than make the individual pilot feels like he's doing something. He's not making any points to anyone except himself. As a previous union leader I say get your head out of your behind and if you want to make a point then stand with the leadership and your fellow pilots in doing the things that really carry some impact. The slow taxi seems to be an AA invention that ceased working shortly after deregulation.

 

[slaquer5]

You're right. Had to check my logbook. One time. And you were a month off probation. Guess that's why you're so forgettable.

You might be surprised to find out how many of our guys agree with me.

When I was in the bottom 10% of the seniority list, I generally kept my "opinions" to myself.

So the junior guys should just keep there mouths shut. That goes in line for what a bigot you are. You dislike Jews, blacks. And well I am sure the list is long


Your Fk up . Go get help.

 

[Always deferred]

You hit the nail on the head. Self destruction of your brand and performance. Retaliation for whatever shell is left of this career. Since the government binds us with the RLA and never releases us to self help, we find other ways.

So when you self destruct your airline and your career is over and you start at the bottom somewhere else for the remaining few years, or take a job flipping burgers, will you feel good that you 'made your point?' Will you feel good that you put a lot of other hard working individuals at your company on the street? Will you feel good when your CEO brushes this one off, takes his golden parachute and gets another CEO job heading up another corporation or sits on the BOD somewhere?

You're only hurting yourself and fellow employees my friend. Demand your union leaders to start thinking outside the box for non-selfdestructive solutions.

 

[SWA Bubba]

A coupla' responses to recent Fubi-foolishness:

This thread started with someone mentioning AA purposefully slow-taxiing, presumidly as a tactic in their issues with their management and BK. Fubi misunderstands, and takes offense because he crawl-taxis to pad his paycheck:

How is your pay calculated. Mine is by the minute. Get a clue.

I guess we all need to get a clue. Then several SWA guys chime in and say that although we're fine with AA using a tactic, we'd like them to not inconvenience other carriers while doing it, and even offer suggestions on how to do so. Fubi is beside himself. Southwest posters! He HAS to engage:

Sounds an awful lot like you SWA boys want to tell other pilots what to do. If you have to fly underblock to pad your paycheck, TFB. Perhaps you should concentrate less on hurry and more on safety.

Unfortunately, his blather has nothing to do with the conversation. We were talking about intentionally taxiing too slow, and his retort is about Southwest rushing. Then, just to demonstrate how classy he is, he goes on to bring up SWA incidents which also have nothing to do with taxiing:

That would have kept at least two of your airplanes inside the airport boundary.

What a guy. Anyway, he can't stop himself from bringing up those incidents again, because everyone knows he can't make a post about American Airlines without having something to trash SWA about. This time it's about SWA wrecking airplanees and maintenance fines. Dude. We're trying to talk about intentional slow-taxiing, and you can't seem to help yourself talking about how bad SWA sucks.

At any rate, I didn't get a chance earlier, so here's a response to the other posts Fubi made:

BTW, how did any of you clowns become airline pilots and NOT know the difference between a mechanical failure and pilot error (twice!)...Yikes.

Uh, Fubi... To refresh your memory, YOU are the one who went straight to accidents in an unrelated thread. And YOU, dumbazz, were the one who mentioned "wrecking airplanes" and "maintenance departments" in the same line. Good God, do you even read what you write?

I ONLY taxi slow when SWA is behind me.

I see. Mister Professioinal. What a joy you must be to be around.

When I was in the bottom 10% of the seniority list, I generally kept my "opinions" to myself.

Wow. Professional AND a model of tolerance and acceptance. I suppose if your FO disagrees with something you do on the flight deck, the passengers on your plane better hope he's not in the bottom 10%, so you'll actually allow him to speak before you "wreck" an airplane.

Anyway, Fubi, have a nice, SWA-hating day.

Bubba

 

[EngineThunder]

After threatening Mookie, a fellow co worker, via PM earlier in the thread, he might have bigger problems on his hands than his hate for SWA.

 

[Fubijaakr]

You guys think what he (Fubi) writes here is bad, you should read the threatening pm's he's sent me tonight.

You really need to grow up. The only person who sent threats was YOU! But, hey, do what you have to do...then we can have two guys known as "the Rat."

 

[Fubijaakr]

Fubi, seniority is a very relative thing- some very "junior" pilots have vast life and airline experience

Very true. However, not in this case. What we have here is someone who is afraid of his own shadow. He has had ample opportunity to talk to me in person yet, amazingly failed to do so.

That's called cowardice.

He just can't understand that some things posted on this site are done for "effect".

SHOCKER!

 

[Fubijaakr]

Guess I'll forward the PMs to all of you and you can judge for yourself who was threatening who.

 

[Mookie]

Guys...
After discussing this w a buddy who is on pro stands, we both agree that it's fubis god given right to be a jerk online. We'll just have to see if more fo's complain about him and his ethics. It's sad, really, but I hope you guys know his opinion regarding these issues is not indicative of those of every Alaska pilot I know and have flown with.

Happy holidays, y'all
Mookie

 

[UpNDownGuy]

The irony of this thread is incredible. SWA pilots lecturing others on TAXIING????? And professionalism??? Are you kidding me?

JUST TODAY, my LATEST experience with these clowns:

We taxi out in PBI, about 3 minutes before SWA calls for taxi. We taxi out at a fairly brisk pace (18-20K), my last leg of the day. SWA, doing easily 45K on the outer trying to pass us, unfortunately we got to end of the runway first. The SWA guy was so out of control I stopped short because I didn't think he could stop. His FO screaming on the radio they're "ready to go", they cut right in front of us (again, luckily I stopped), and they're cleared for TO. We took off less than 1 minute behind them, and followed them north, where we were treated to a Lufthansa responding to an RA they generated climbing to FL230.

Professional? Safe? Yeah, right. If you work for SWA, just STFU about professionalism, at least until there is a massive change in the safety culture there.

 

[kj6991]

The irony of this thread is incredible. SWA pilots lecturing others on TAXIING????? And professionalism??? Are you kidding me?

JUST TODAY, my LATEST experience with these clowns:

We taxi out in PBI, about 3 minutes before SWA calls for taxi. We taxi out at a fairly brisk pace (18-20K), my last leg of the day. SWA, doing easily 45K on the outer trying to pass us, unfortunately we got to end of the runway first. The SWA guy was so out of control I stopped short because I didn't think he could stop. His FO screaming on the radio they're "ready to go", they cut right in front of us (again, luckily I stopped), and they're cleared for TO. We took off less than 1 minute behind them, and followed them north, where we were treated to a Lufthansa responding to an RA they generated climbing to FL230.

Professional? Safe? Yeah, right. If you work for SWA, just STFU about
professionalism, at least until there is a massive change in the safety culture there.

I must say, for all my love of Southwest, I do tend to agree with this post.

 

[Mookie]

I must say, for all my love of Southwest, I do tend to agree with this post.

We have Arctic Eagles here who do the same things

Mookie