The American crawl is back....

[BigMeat]

I can make more $$$ in a month by logging less hours per trip.

I understand the "crawl" thing, and due to contractual issues, have done it myself in previous lives, BUT, if there was someone behind me, I'd pick it up or let them by. Have a little consideration for your fellow professionals.

I've been hosed by the "crAAwl" a bunch of times over the years, but the record has to be the time I got stuck behind an AA Maddog in ABQ. He was #1 for departure and "taxiing" on the outer. We pushd a few mnutes after him, and taxied normally on the inner and had to hold short of the outer for over 10 minutes so we could follow him to 26. It took us 27 minutes (even longer for them because they pushed before us) to taxi to 26, and they STILL weren't ready at the end, so we ended up going before them anyway. They probably had to let the brakes cool after dragging them so long.

GMAFB

Well some of us are doing what we can to fight for our careers. Are you sure your not a CAL captain?

 

[Ty Webb]

I got stuck behind an LCC east 757 going 1kt off of 8 taxiing to the B gates in Phoenix. That was several months ago though.

. . . . . we're almost at the gate now. .(drumroll, cymbal splash)

Thanks, folks . . .I'll be here all week. Drink up, Shriners!

:beer:

 

[Tripower455]

Well some of us are doing what we can to fight for our careers. Are you sure your not a CAL captain?

I have no problem with doing what you need to do to "fight for your career", but how does screwing me and everyone else out of extra pay, commuter flights etc. help you? Just ask to hold out of the way somewhere for a while, and let other folks get where they're going.

Oh, and the closest I ever got to working for CAL was when I worked for Bar Harbor, who got bought by CO-EX about 5 months after I got furloughed.

 

[J3guy]

Well some of us are doing what we can to fight for our careers. Are you sure your not a CAL captain?

As a platinum customer on AA(not by choice) how does this help the profession? AA's service is so terrible i avoid them at all cost. Missing my connection or whatever else is not appreciated. Sitting in the middle seat for an extra half hour so the cap can make a point is bs. I hope AA gets what it very much deserves in BK. Good day

 

[Fubijaakr]

or did it ever end?

Nothing like getting stuck behind an AA 737 taxiing at 5 kts.

How is your pay calculated. Mine is by the minute. Get a clue.

 

[Always deferred]

Well some of us are doing what we can to fight for our careers. Are you sure your not a CAL captain?

This how you fight for your career? What an asinine comment. When your kids throws a hissy fit do you just cave and give them what they want?

Despite what you think and what you're told doing things like this does nothing to "fight for your career" other than turn away the loyal passengers who pay your salary and who fund any hope for your long term survival and return to top wages. They WILL go elsewhere and won't return and you'll find your career and company spiraling down. Ah but that will show management right???

Wrong. Mgmt pukes will just go find another mgmt job making the same or better as they were. Your career and livelihood on the otherhand will be over.

 

[TWA Dude]

Taxiing at a "brisk walk" is recommended in the AIM

... for airplanes without brakes.

 

[SWA Bubba]

How is your pay calculated. Mine is by the minute. Get a clue.

Really? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. Are you really saying it's okay to taxi ridiculously slow to pad your paycheck (or make a statement), regardless of what it does to other pilots at that airport? Cause if you ARE, it's sounding an awful lot like, "it's all about me; screw everyone else." There's pilots who do NOT get paid by the minute, or have the opportunity to make more money picking up because a tailwind allows them to underblock and therefore pick up more flying, or who simply are trying to make a commuting flight home. To some of these other guys, minutes count. Minutes wasted behind a "crawler" count.

Now I'm not talking about people doing unsafe things to make an unrealistic commute, I'm talking about taking 27 minutes to get to runway 26 in ABQ (essentially a 2-mile straight taxiway). That's complete crap. I'm not here to argue about whether it's stealing from your company by intentionally taxiing too slowly to rack up block time, or whether it's an effective strategy taxiing extra slow to make a statement to your company. What I'm talking about is NOT screwing your fellow aviators who aren't doing whatever it is that you're trying to do.

Like Tripower said: if you want to crawl for whatever reason, that's up to you. No other pilot is going to tell you what to do. But if there's someone behind you, how 'bout finding another way to accoplish your goal: Ask to pull over and "rerun numbers." Tell ground you "have a paperwork or maintenance issue" you need to take care of. Let them by. Something. Just don't impose your slowdown on other carriers who undoubtedly have different motivations than you. That's chickensh1t.

But like I said, maybe I'm just hearing you wrong.

Bubba

 

[slaquer5]

How is your pay calculated. Mine is by the minute. Get a clue.

So your willing to Fk your customer, so you can make a few more bucks. I would not expect anything better from you. The AA passenger did not do this to the pilots, why are the pilots punishing them?

 

[Sandhawk]

How is your pay calculated. Mine is by the minute. Get a clue.

Hey Capt Cork Soaker - please see post #19... and get a clue!

 

[Fubijaakr]

Sounds an awful lot like you SWA boys want to tell other pilots what to do. If you have to fly underblock to pad your paycheck, TFB. Perhaps you should concentrate less on hurry and more on safety.

That would have kept at least two of your airplanes inside the airport boundary.

 

[Tripower455]

Sounds an awful lot like you SWA boys want to tell other pilots what to do. If you have to fly underblock to pad your paycheck, TFB. Perhaps you should concentrate less on hurry and more on safety.

That would have kept at least two of your airplanes inside the airport boundary.

GMAFB.......

If you're doing that ******************** to pad your paycheck, regardless of the effect on everyone around you, you're an unprofessional a-hole. Period.

 

[Captain Fulough]

Sounds an awful lot like you SWA boys want to tell other pilots what to do. If you have to fly underblock to pad your paycheck, TFB. Perhaps you should concentrate less on hurry and more on safety.

That would have kept at least two of your airplanes inside the airport boundary.

Once again you prove what an a$$ you are. Not that there was any doubt. Good luck with your life, you'll need it.

 

[SWA Bubba]

Sounds an awful lot like you SWA boys want to tell other pilots what to do. If you have to fly underblock to pad your paycheck, TFB. Perhaps you should concentrate less on hurry and more on safety.

That would have kept at least two of your airplanes inside the airport boundary.

Nice deflection (not to mention being an insensitive prick), dumbazz.

We were talking about intentionally taxiing ridiculously slow to add block time, or to send a message to management. In fact, in your post, you alluded to the fact that you do that yourself ('paid by the minute' comment). Whatever, dude. That's on you.

How 'bout this, Alaska-boy: instead of comparing our airlines' safety records like you're trying to do (i.e. who's killed more passengers), why don't we stay on track here, talking about taxi speeds and professional courtesy. You don't have to be taxiing fast to be exasperated at a guy who takes 27 minutes to roll 2 miles. If he (and you, apparently) want to taxi at the spped of an ant for your personal reasons, fine. Just get out of the way of people who don't have YOUR agenda. Be that Southwest, Delta, United, or even a freakin' Cessna.

I know it's an alien idea for you to consider anyone else besides yourself, but guess what--other people are out there. But that's okay, just keep being Fubi-first. The rest of the world will survive; they'll just know you're a narcissistic, self-centered jerk. And I mean that in the nicest way possible.

Bubba

 

[Fubijaakr]

Rush, rush, rush. Push, push, push. Just to make a few extra bucks. The SWA motto.

Guess you never heard the old saying...Haste makes waste. I guess when you have 500 airplanes, you can wreck a few here and there. Considering the fines you guys pay, looks like that philosophy applies to the maintenance department, too.

 

[NEDude]

Sounds an awful lot like you SWA boys want to tell other pilots what to do. If you have to fly underblock to pad your paycheck, TFB. Perhaps you should concentrate less on hurry and more on safety.

That would have kept at least two of your airplanes inside the airport boundary.

Pretty tough words for a guy who undercuts Southwest pay and works for an airline that has driven a plane off a runway because the pilots wanted a hot dog.

 

[Tripower455]

Rush, rush, rush. Push, push, push. Just to make a few extra bucks. The SWA motto.

It doesn't take 27+ minutes to go 2 miles taxiing at a normal rate in good weather with nobody in front of you. If you feel the need to do this, then tell ground to allow the folks not trying to pad minutes here and there to pass you, and we all get what we want. You get to pad your paycheck, and they get to go home, pick up extra etc.

A little consideration goes a long way, and is a true sign of a professional, but judging from your posts on FI, you're neither. .

Guess you never heard the old saying...Haste makes waste. I guess when you have 500 airplanes, you can wreck a few here and there. Considering the fines you guys pay, looks like that philosophy applies to the maintenance department, too.

Enjoy your subpar job for subpar pay, and keep on unnecessarily adding to the airport gridlock for your own selfish reasons. Jealousy doesn't become you.

 

[say again]

Once again you prove what an a$$ you are. Not that there was any doubt. Good luck with your life, you'll need it.

He's a worthless POS! Must be trying to compensate for something. It's easier to just ignore, but then again, it's quite amusing to read the writing of a retard.

 

[swa737-700]

not to mention the safety issue here. I sure hope aa does not need to abort a take-off after heating the brakes up for 30 minutes...don't think the jet will stop as well. That is reason enough to pull over and make up reasons you can't depart, not to mention screwing your fellow aviators and OUR passengers. You obviously don't care about your pax. Grow up aa!

 

[eaglesview]

You folks especially you SW guys don't get it. I fully support an AA pilot group that has been set up to get screwed. Will management get screwed....NO. Management understands one thing and that's money. I highly doubt the AA guys are "padding their paychecks." They are intent on costing AA money on misconects ect. You folks who think that management will come around and play fair after 5 years of negotiating are high.

Good luck to all you AA guys. If I get stuck behind you, which happens all the time in ORD, I have no problem with it. In fact I question the week sisters that are not doing it.