SWAPA calls all former AirTran pilots

[texman]

1. SWA forms Guadalupe Holdings
2. Guadalupe holdings purchases AirTran
3. Guadalupe holdings is dissolved, leaving SWA holdings in direct ownership of AirTran.

That's how it was explained to me...

PM'ing you now.

 

[Lonestar]

1. SWA forms Guadalupe Holdings
2. Guadalupe holdings purchases AirTran
3. Guadalupe holdings is dissolved, leaving SWA holdings in direct ownership of AirTran.

That's how it was explained to me...

Lear, I think your MC left out a few steps.

1. SWA forms Guadalupe Holdings,
2. Guadalupe Holdings purchases AirTran,
3. Guadalupe Holdings merges with AirTran and retains the AirTran name,
4. SWA forms Sub LLC,
5. Sub LLC merges with AirTran (formerly Guadalupe Holdings) and retains the AirTran name,
6. AirTran (Sub LLC) is a wholly owned of Southwest Airlines in a similar setup to American Eagle and American or formerly Comair and Delta.

 

[texman]

Lear, I think your MC left out a few steps.

1. SWA forms Guadalupe Holdings,
2. Guadalupe Holdings purchases AirTran,
3. Guadalupe Holdings merges with AirTran and retains the AirTran name,
4. SWA forms Sub LLC,
5. Sub LLC merges with AirTran (formerly Guadalupe Holdings) and retains the AirTran name,
6. AirTran (Sub LLC) is a wholly owned of Southwest Airlines in a similar setup to American Eagle and American or formerly Comair and Delta.

This is what I meant. The latest Merger Agreement States all this, but what you left out is AT holdings name will cease to exists. It will be the Post transaction that will terminate it. So I hope that All the AT bro's don't hate on us but only on there shareholders. We have nothing to do with it.

 

[Kharma Police]

Lear, I think your MC left out a few steps.

1. SWA forms Guadalupe Holdings,
2. Guadalupe Holdings purchases AirTran,
3. Guadalupe Holdings merges with AirTran and retains the AirTran name,
4. SWA forms Sub LLC,
5. Sub LLC merges with AirTran (formerly Guadalupe Holdings) and retains the AirTran name,
6. AirTran (Sub LLC) is a wholly owned of Southwest Airlines in a similar setup to American Eagle and American or formerly Comair and Delta.

7. Gary Kelly investigated by the SEC for making false statements to Southwest and AirTran shareholers.

 

[Kharma Police]

This is what I meant. The latest Merger Agreement States all this, but what you left out is AT holdings name will cease to exists. It will be the Post transaction that will terminate it. So I hope that All the AT bro's don't hate on us but only on there shareholders. We have nothing to do with it.

Don't worry, I dont take anthing personal. Besides, I'm sure you guys will offer the same benevolence if the SLI doesn't go the way you want it to.

 

[texman]

Don't worry, I dont take anthing personal. Besides, I'm sure you guys will offer the same benevolence if the SLI doesn't go the way you want it to.

Dude you are such a tool. Go and see the latest SEC filing. GK/BF is being up front. March 23rd you will know how it will go down. If you want a preview go see for your self. Educate your self. I just don't want you to be a SWA hater.

 

[Kharma Police]

Dude you are such a tool. Go and see the latest SEC filing. GK/BF is being up front. March 23rd you will know how it will go down. If you want a preview go see for your self. Educate your self. I just don't want you to be a SWA hater.

I'm sorry, but I just stated that I don't take this shiz personal. You and I have no control over the final outcome but with some of the scorched earth posts I read from SOME of you guys, I worry about how SOME of you will react when the SLI comes out.

 

[General Lee]

Lear, I think your MC left out a few steps.

1. SWA forms Guadalupe Holdings,
2. Guadalupe Holdings purchases AirTran,
3. Guadalupe Holdings merges with AirTran and retains the AirTran name,
4. SWA forms Sub LLC,
5. Sub LLC merges with AirTran (formerly Guadalupe Holdings) and retains the AirTran name,
6. AirTran (Sub LLC) is a wholly owned of Southwest Airlines in a similar setup to American Eagle and American or formerly Comair and Delta.

Now THAT sounds like the famous Southwest "Culture"! Have a red-headed stepchild as a seperate entity. Yeah, if that is even remotely close to the eventual truth, that is gonna be really fun. I think my employer is going to LUV it. Talk about unhappy and not productive. It's gonna make riots in the Middle East look tame. GK sure does need to read the merger handbook if he wants to see any beneficial "synergies." Very doubtful this would happen. Nah! Airtran, the "Southwest Connect." This USAir-like trainwreck is getting more fun to watch each day.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[fr8doggie]

Section 1 Violation

Lear, I think your MC left out a few steps.

1. SWA forms Guadalupe Holdings,
2. Guadalupe Holdings purchases AirTran,
3. Guadalupe Holdings merges with AirTran and retains the AirTran name,
4. SWA forms Sub LLC,
5. Sub LLC merges with AirTran (formerly Guadalupe Holdings) and retains the AirTran name,
6. AirTran (Sub LLC) is a wholly owned of Southwest Airlines in a similar setup to American Eagle and American or formerly Comair and Delta.

Wouldn't this be a major violation of SWAPA's Section 1 Scope Clause?

 

[General Lee]

I'm sorry, but I just stated that I don't take this shiz personal. You and I have no control over the final outcome but with some of the scorched earth posts I read from SOME of you guys, I worry about how SOME of you will react when the SLI comes out.

Don't let them get to you. You are right, they have no control over the SLI at all. And, I am sure ALPA is monitoring the Guadaloupe stuff. Sounds far-fetched to me. Just chillax and wait for your lawyers to fight for you. Good luck.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[texman]

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I'm sorry, but I just stated that I don't take this shiz personal. You and I have no control over the final outcome but with some of the scorched earth posts I read from SOME of you guys, I worry about how SOME of you will react when the SLI comes out.

I'm worried about you guys, and what bs us swa pilots are going to put up with. It will be AT share holders that decide. Latest Merger Agreement states why AT is being sold. I am all about fair via A/M and M/B.

 

[FlyinGuy]

WHO FARTED!!!!


My bad....The general showed up!

 

[Skyboy722]

7. Gary Kelly investigated by the SEC for making false statements to Southwest and AirTran shareholers.

This deal structure has been very public and very clearly defined since the beginning. You just haven't been paying attention.

 

[roughneck]

Wouldn't this be a major violation of SWAPA's Section 1 Scope Clause?

Our section 1 allows for separate operations for no longer than 24 months or whatever longer period Swapa and Southwest decide.

 

[funnyman12]

Didn't the SW pilots vote down a TA due to domestic codeshares? Yeah operating a regional with lower wages and the same equipment is a super idea. I will be a happy grateful pilot when SW owns us but geez guys you are sure being mean to a fellow pilot that us just an employee of an airline that was bought.

 

[dicko]

Lear, I think your MC left out a few steps.

1. SWA forms Guadalupe Holdings,
2. Guadalupe Holdings purchases AirTran,
3. Guadalupe Holdings merges with AirTran and retains the AirTran name,
4. SWA forms Sub LLC,
5. Sub LLC merges with AirTran (formerly Guadalupe Holdings) and retains the AirTran name,
6. AirTran (Sub LLC) is a wholly owned of Southwest Airlines in a similar setup to American Eagle and American or formerly Comair and Delta.

This was laid out on Sep 26 2010 as the plan of the merger. In both documents 'AirTran' becomes a subsidiary of SWA.

In the new Merger document AirTran is merged into and with a LLC. The LLC subsidiary becomes the surviving company.

 

[texman]

Your right dicko. It went from a tax shell to a new llc. Post merger transaction. So we end up with what CO had with express jet. This is out of swapa control.

 

[texman]

I can see the haters coming

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

If the swa pilots case is so strong, why all the nervous chatter? Seems that in y'alls eyes it is a slam dunk. How could an independent arbitrator not see that?

 

[redflyer65]

We have ironclad domestic codeshare protection. I believe it will then be the function of the fences to come.

It will be up to SWAPA to release (temporarily) the codeshare relief for XX number of years and possibly re-visit it later. I would think there will be no relief from the CRJ portion. Something like "all CRJ flying will stop within 90 days of this agreement".

This is going to be interesting no doubt.