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fastone

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Guys -- Little advice here, pleasae -I got got called for a SWA interview and a CAL interview!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any pointers? I am all ears!
 
In my opinion a no brainer... Go to both interviews, if offered at both go to SWA. Read the thread "first year pay at Continental" ...
 
h25b said:
In my opinion a no brainer... Go to both interviews, if offered at both go to SWA. Read the thread "first year pay at Continental" ...
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the interview at SWA is after the interview at CAL...
 
fastone said:
Any pointers? I am all ears!
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Do well at both interviews!

If you're offered a class date with CAL but you still want to see how it goes with SW, put off CAL as long as possible. Blame it on "family obligations" or some other B.S.

If you get an offer from both it's time to decide what type of flying you want to do for the rest of your career. IMO, both are very good companies and they will be around for a long time (in some form).

I personally wouldn't base my decision on first or second year pay at either airline. There is so much more to consider. The past several years have shown us that pay rates can change quickly. That statement also holds true for crew bases. I think future upgrade times will be close to the same at both carriers.

Congrats on being in that position! Where do you want to work?
 
Where would you rather be based, Guam or BWI?

BBB
 
Just would like to know, what is your experience? did you have any LOR, did you go to Air Inc. ....are you in the regionals, on furlough how much PIC......bla bla bla....

Congrates on the interviews, I would do both, If both jobs are overed, I would go to Cont, only because it has always been a dream of mine to fly International at a major.
 
I don't know how long it take at CAL to let you know, but at SW you can count on at least 3+ weeks until the DB would hear your case. If you wanted to hear from both before making a descision, I don't think that CAL would wait that long.
 
fastone:

Base your decision on what type of flying you would like to do over the long term, where you want to be based and the financial picture of the airline.

The financial picture of an airline is hard, things can change in a matter of months.
 
I don't know how long it take at CAL to let you know
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CAL takes 2-3 business days to give you the thumbs up phone call, and 3-5 business days to FedEx up the bad news letter.


If you get an offer from both it's time to decide what type of flying you want to do for the rest of your career. IMO, both are very good companies and they will be around for a long time (in some form).
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I think this is well said.

If you get both jobs, it depends on what kind of flying you want to do. If you don't care one way or the other, then probably go with Southwest.

However, if you're interested in seeing the world, and getting paid to do so, then take a look at CAL 777 bid packet
 
SWA GUY said:
One word, "Job Security". Make that two words...[/
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Nobody is immune, and if you keep that arrogant attitude up it will be your downfall like the legacies around you. Many at legacies had that invinsible attitude, now you do, funny how we are doomed to repeat history.

You would never have expected global airlines with billons in cash could be brought to their knees and other sent to BK.

God forbid our country is hit again not even the "great" SWA will be able to chug along like nothing has happened.

IMHO
AA

P.S. Wright is Right!!!
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I like this statement,

" you make the decision to the best of your ability based on the information you have available at the present time."

All of us know people who left, I saw a B727 CA at CO in '88 leave for US, because quote, CAL will never be anything, that person from my crashpad would be a B777 CA now instead of on the street. Was he wrong, "yeah" but it was the right move in "88. Go figure.
 
AAflyer said:
Nobody is immune, and if you keep that arrogant attitude up it will be your downfall like the legacies around you. Many at legacies had that invinsible attitude, now you do
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That comment is arrogant? He never mentioned Southwest, he just said "job security". That is for the person who is collecting the info to decide.

P.S. The Wright is Wrong Bitch!
 
Thanks for noticing, Canyon Blue. I deliberately suggested "Job Security" and not either airline.

It IS interesting that AAflyer made the connection of job security to SWA however....
 
and the connection had nothing to do with a picture of a swa 737 from a guy named swa guy. good thing matlock wasn't busy today
 
guys thanks for the info... i will decide if offered the job -- the swa interview is a while down the road. i would hate to pass up a job offer for a what if scenerio... ya know what i mean... you can't collectively put all your eggs into one basket and think what if all the time, i know that... i have wanted to fly for cal forever... hmmmm i guess that i am in a great position -- oh and for the answers to the earlier post, i have over 5000 tt (just over) and a little over 1000 turbine pic... 5 letters of rec for cal...

the facts are like this -- cal will be hiring a lot -- several in the next few years... upgrades and qol will move fast as i understand it all... i think that cal is no a brainer and anyone that passes it up would be stupid, i know that...
 
I'm all for everyone else going to the other airlines, go to Continental, US Air, United, etc and leave more room for me to apply at Southwest. Thanks.
 
fastone said:
Guys -- Little advice here, pleasae -I got got called for a SWA interview and a CAL interview!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any pointers? I am all ears!
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Both great companies, chose the one in which you do not have to commute. Commuting can take a great job and make it just a good one. You do not want to have to commute the rest of your career, and if you do commute you will be caught in a bind. You will hate it, but you will never leave because you are at a great company
 
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Both great companies, chose the one in which you do not have to commute. Commuting can take a great job and make it just a good one. You do not want to have to commute the rest of your career, and if you do commute you will be caught in a bind. You will hate it, but you will never leave because you are at a great company
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I second that, go to the company that has a base near you or one that you are willing to move. Commuting for a career would make even a great job not worth it.
 
as214 said:
Both great companies, chose the one in which you do not have to commute. Commuting can take a great job and make it just a good one. You do not want to have to commute the rest of your career, and if you do commute you will be caught in a bind. You will hate it, but you will never leave because you are at a great company
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OR you could move to a base. Houston, both companies. Now, it's either CLE, Newark, or one of the many bases WN has.
 
as214 said:
Both great companies, chose the one in which you do not have to commute. Commuting can take a great job and make it just a good one. You do not want to have to commute the rest of your career, and if you do commute you will be caught in a bind. You will hate it, but you will never leave because you are at a great company
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Don't plan on a base remaining open where you move. Airlines open/close and hubs open/close all the time. This is how a great many commuters become commuters.
 
Back in the heydey of all majors hiring, many went to a major while waiting for LUV. Some were there for a year or more before their LUV class date. It's an income and it keeps you flying, sometimes in the 737. LUV loves that.
 
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FWIW,

I was furloughed from CAL in '01....I've found a much nicer home at LUV. In an industry of apples and oranges LUV is a chocolate milkshake. The sky is bluer, the grass is greener and my food tastes better :-) No $hit !!!
 
There's really no decision to make until you get two job offers.

Good luck and don't look back. Lot's of folks would like to be in that position.
 
Username... love the avatar. (no kidding, TWA was the hometown airline growing up.)

Just curious, why does the N number end in LF... most 767s ended, obviously, with TW.

thanks,
73
 

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