SWA goes after RJs again

[BILL LUMBERG]

It's tough shouldering that responsibility on your own while the rest of the industry is in the tank. But, YOU'RE WELCOME for keeping the bar UP for the last umpteen years.

Wow! That's like the anchor looking up at the ship saying...Glad I kept you grounded during the storm!

 

[Roomwithaview]

You stay classy PCL

Wow, you're an idiot. Newsflash: your rates still haven't come close to Delta's rates from a contract inked 13 years ago, dumbass.

I don't know what the F*ck you're talking about. But I certainly remember us negotiating a ILC while DALPA was overseeing a concessionary one. Nice touch with name calling though. It kind of punctuates your lack of ability to discuss this issue factually.

I started a thread to point out the CURRENT shortcomings in our contract. Why? Because you need to make hay while the sun is shining. And, who knows how long this current growth spurt will last. I've been in this biz for over 30 years. Care to guess how many BKs I've witnessed AND suffered through?

If I was concerned with the usual FLIFO "d*ck measuring" I wouldn't be pointing that out.

No wonder you and GLEE so closely relate to each other. Pretty much the same path all the FLIFO thought leaders head down whenever they're getting their a$$es handed to them and they have no where else to run but an emotional rant.

You ladies should be spending more time trying to bring us all up instead of being concerned with who has the hottest wife. But then again, isolationism is what got you to where you all are regarding RJs, SCOPE, and CODESHARE.

 

[Roomwithaview]

Wow! That's like the anchor looking up at the ship saying...Glad I kept you grounded during the storm!

Maybe so. Quite possibly not a bad analogy. There's a helluva lot of old dirty anchors that survived many a shipwreck. Consider that next time you're out front of a maritime museum.

 

[PCL_128]

I don't know what the F*ck you're talking about.

Clearly. You might want to go back and look at what DAL Contract '01 looked like, then look at your current contract, and then decide whether its really appropriate for you to be such a smartass about "holding up the bar."

 

[Roomwithaview]

Clearly. You might want to go back and look at what DAL Contract '01 looked like, then look at your current contract, and then decide whether its really appropriate for you to be such a smartass about "holding up the bar."

Yeah, 01 was awesome. Until the BK. Swing and a miss.

Here's some light reading for you.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/09/14/news/fortune500/delta/
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/05/business/delta-and-pilots-start-talks-on-concessions.html
http://www.law360.com/articles/6807/delta-reaches-concession-deal-with-pilots

Once again-Bill. Thanks for being profitable, again. And, thanks for making the negotiating environment a hell of a lot less hostile than the previous ten years.

 

[PCL_128]

Yeah, who woulda thunk that Delta might have to file for bankruptcy when their competitors like SWA were getting away with keeping costs down by doing things like paying pilots 50% less. What a shocker!

 

[Roomwithaview]

Yeah, who woulda thunk that Delta might have to file for bankruptcy when their competitors like SWA were getting away with keeping costs down by doing things like paying pilots 50% less. What a shocker!

Now you're just talking out your a$$.

Good lord-Man. Bring something to the table other than nonsensical unsubstantiated, school girl rants.

The irony of all this is the fact that it's coming from a VALUETranny whose company and pilot contracts did more to harm the pilot compensation equation than ANY RSWA contract.

Keep it up though. You're fun to watch.

 

[PCL_128]

Unsubstantiated? It's all in black and white in the contracts. Your CBA was atrocious pre-2005. (And yes, AirTran's was atrocious pre-2010)

 

[Roomwithaview]

Unsubstantiated? It's all in black and white in the contracts. Your CBA was atrocious pre-2005. (And yes, AirTran's was atrocious pre-2010)

Your damn right it's all there in black and white. Take a gander at some of the $hit we were up against.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/2466441/

Like I said. Recognize the pluses and the minuses and work towards obtaining better pay and bennies for all. But that doesn't matter to you because you're punching out to be a full time Industry research expert-Right?

 

[PCL_128]

A link to the Airliners.net forum? Awesome. Just pure awesome.

And I may be punching out of the industry, but I'll be sure to stick around here and tell you corndogs why you're always wrong.