SWA goes after RJs again

[Roomwithaview]

Dude,

You are flailing on an ocean without a raft!

You sign yourself up as a "Union Goon". And, then in the same breath, blame SWA for all of the rest of the industry's woes, and furthermore, try to blame us for DALs BK concessions, while conveniently ignoring the fact that ANY AIRLINE MGT TEAM (the trannies included) GLEEFULLY POINTED TO THE 30plus % pay reductions as reason to keep our wages as low as possible.

What a f*cking self absorbed tool you are! Get the f*ck out of our industry as fast as you can dude. You are the kind of fool that will easily get his a$$ handed to him by even the most remedial company negotiator.

For the rest of you that are in it for the long term-stop ignoring the mistakes of the past.

Band together and quit the d*ck measuring. Capitalize on the successes of your brethren, learn from their mistakes and prevent them for crippling you in the future.

BTW- you're welcome for showing you the righteous path on CODESHARE and PBS.

 

[Roomwithaview]

Ahhhh. This is the crux of the problem for PCL. He HAS to reach back over 13 years to make an argument. And even that fails.

And yes, the SW guys prior to that retired multi-millions while plenty at DL, UA, NW etc are living off the PBGC at around 40k a year after the ALPA pensions were completely gutted. Re-read that difference folks, because it's stark. That equates to a difference of around 4 times for the SW guys.

But yet his still proud of that accomplishment. Absolutely amazing, in a very, very sad way.

I'm not a B.O.O.B and I certainly didn't get rich on any option pyramid scheme but there is not a dude that was hired when I was hired at any other airline that hasn't told me they would have GLADLY traded places with me. To discuss it any further than that would lower it to the PCL/LUMBERG/GLEE d*ck measuring.

 

[PCL_128]

Looks like I got under your skin. Not surprising since you were confronted with facts instead of your fantasies.

 

[waveflyer]

Stock options and ESPP are irrelevant to this discussion, because they don't help in the world of pattern bargaining, which is where RWAV wants his pat on the back that he doesn't deserve.

And no, you don't deserve credit for "holding things up," because they fell back to your level in the first place. The legacy carriers were only able to get the support in bankruptcy court for such massive cuts because they could point to SWA, JetBlue, and yes, AirTran, and say that their rates weren't in line with their competition. Own it.

Stock options sure do help pay the mortgage though

 

[waveflyer]

Ahhhh. This is the crux of the problem for PCL. He HAS to reach back over 13 years to make an argument. And even that fails.

And yes, the SW guys prior to that retired multi-millions while plenty at DL, UA, NW etc are living off the PBGC at around 40k a year after the ALPA pensions were completely gutted. Re-read that difference folks, because it's stark. That equates to a difference of around 4 times for the SW guys.

PBGC guys getting 40k a year living in a 'starter home', vs.
SW guys having well over 3 million getting 120k/yr on a 4% draw.

Really embarrassing for ALPA.

But yet his still proud of that accomplishment. Absolutely amazing, in a very, very sad way.

You know, I was always taught it's not necessarily how you start, but how you finish.
Right?



Can't retire off the pride of a short lived massive contract

 

[Roomwithaview]

Looks like I got under your skin. Not surprising since you were confronted with facts instead of your fantasies.

Haven't seen one fact yet bro.

Those posts of mine aren't from some imaginary website CNN WSJ, Sentinel. You pick

 

[waveflyer]

Dude,

You are flailing on an ocean without a raft!

You sign yourself up as a "Union Goon". And, then in the same breath, blame SWA for all of the rest of the industry's woes, and furthermore, try to blame us for DALs BK concessions, while conveniently ignoring the fact that ANY AIRLINE MGT TEAM (the trannies included) GLEEFULLY POINTED TO THE 30plus % pay reductions as reason to keep our wages as low as possible.

What a f*cking self absorbed tool you are! Get the f*ck out of our industry as fast as you can dude. You are the kind of fool that will easily get his a$$ handed to him by even the most remedial company negotiator.

For the rest of you that are in it for the long term-stop ignoring the mistakes of the past.

Band together and quit the d*ck measuring. Capitalize on the successes of your brethren, learn from their mistakes and prevent them for crippling you in the future.

BTW- you're welcome for showing you the righteous path on CODESHARE and PBS.

He calls himself pro labor, but is really just pro alpa.

Otherwise he'd be all for the most unionized airline in the United States. Meanwhile, delta is the least unionized carrier and he has them on the pedestal.

 

[Roomwithaview]

Wave

He calls himself pro labor, but is really just pro alpa.

Otherwise he'd be all for the most unionized airline in the United States. Meanwhile, delta is the least unionized carrier and he has them on the pedestal.

Make no mistake-I don't believe for a minute that PCL or any other self professed tranny union goon was truly pro pilot. Otherwise they wouldn't have been s*cking eastern scab wanker from their Flt ops mgt team. MGT says, "Eastern Scab?"

PCL and the boys say-NO PROBLEM!

Thanks ALPULL!!

 

[PCL_128]

He calls himself pro labor, but is really just pro alpa.

Otherwise he'd be all for the most unionized airline in the United States. Meanwhile, delta is the least unionized carrier and he has them on the pedestal.

Companies aren't unionized, crafts and classes are. I think it's shameful that the pilots and dispatchers are the only unionized groups at Delta. And I think it's great that so many groups are unionized at SWA. But SWAPA isn't a real union. As Captain Moak says, "independent union is an oxymoron."

 

[Roomwithaview]

Companies aren't unionized, crafts and classes are. I think it's shameful that the pilots and dispatchers are the only unionized groups at Delta. And I think it's great that so many groups are unionized at SWA. But SWAPA isn't a real union. As Captain Moak says, "independent union is an oxymoron."

You mean "not a real union" because we haven't overseen a HUGE CONCESSIONARY CONTRACT?

That kind of "real ness" you can have.