SWA/FL Codeshare

[Whataburger]

Well, I hear they have lots of steers and the other thing in those cities. Maybe I'll buy me some cows and start a farm while I'm roaming the Western TX range. Isn't that where they filmed "Brokeback Mountain"?

Say what? There is no such place as "Western Texas." It's West Texas.

When we chose to be our own country, more than once, the locals referenced very distinct areas of the great Republic.

East Texas
West Texas
South Texas
North Texas
Panhandle.

Damn Gina.

 

[Lear70]

Say what? There is no such place as "Western Texas." It's West Texas.

When we chose to be our own country, more than once, the locals referenced very distinct areas of the great Republic.

East Texas
West Texas
South Texas
North Texas
Panhandle.

Damn Gina.

My mistake. You think I'd know better after living in the mid-cities for 3 years.

 

[Dash Power]

I recognize both those documents. Those made the rounds around here also. Too bad you can't find the one that gave you grave concern because I just don't see and "take this or your unemployed" type of statements. What I see is in your first letter actually quite a bit of reinsurance right under what you wanted to show.

Someone must have the exact letter of which you are referring. I would really like to see it so maybe I can have a better understanding of where the AT pilots are coming from.

Thanks.

I have to say that unless someone shows some other document saying Gary told the AT guys to take it or leave it, it damages some credibility here.

 

[humveedriver]

Say what? There is no such place as "Western Texas." It's West Texas.

When we chose to be our own country, more than once, the locals referenced very distinct areas of the great Republic.

East Texas
West Texas
South Texas
North Texas
Panhandle.
Hill Country

Damn Gina.

You forgot one!

 

[humveedriver]

I have to say that unless someone shows some other document saying Gary told the AT guys to take it or leave it, it damages some credibility here.

I just didn't think to save a FLICA memo from over a year ago, that would have saved my FI credibility. If you don't have credibilty on anonymous message boards, what's left?

 

[Lear70]

I have to say that unless someone shows some other document saying Gary told the AT guys to take it or leave it, it damages some credibility here.

Credibility damaged? Only in your mind.

Southwest never put that EXACT statement in writing, knowing they could get sued for OUTRIGHT violation of Federal Law.

What they did was do everything BUT that in writing, telling pilots in writing that they were investigating their options in NOT integrating the operation, while telling us very openly in negotiations that they would, in fact, NOT integrate the two airlines if we didn't agree to their terms, all the while knowing that all they had to do was strongly SUGGEST they would do that publicly and our pilots would capitulate, and also knowing that by outright telling our negotiators and MEC leadership, that we'd be opening ourselves to lawsuit by not putting it out to vote.

Which is all exactly what happened.

Again, absent that threat, the pilots wouldn't have started recalls and we NEVER would have sent out SIA 2. You think it's a coincidence that the recall effort started after that letter from GK? Just wouldn't have happened.

The AirTran pilots know EXACTLY what happened, what your management representatives did, what they said in open road shows when asked about non-integration "Plan B", then right before the vote, sent out another veiled threat in writing which said "If you agree to this deal, we GUARANTEE integration", which leaves the other side of the coin, "Shoot it down and we go with Plan B", which was what they had been saying in the road shows.

You can believe whatever you like. The AirTran pilots voted out of fear for their jobs. The. Fu*king. End. Twist it however you want (and I know you will), I'm done. The AirTran pilots know well what happened, and I'm pretty much through giving a rat sh*t whether a small percentage of you SWA pilots believe it or not, most of you get it, and that's enough for me. It's over, your management played the pilots here masterfully, and our pilots gave up the right to go to arbitration because we were too scared to take the risk with the threats, both written and verbal, put out in the open.

All of which is moot at this point, except the lessons learned.

 

[PCL_128]

There's only one thing here that Lear is wrong on. He said that the company claimed that they had 100 people working on "Plan B." In reality, they claimed that it was 500 people working on "Plan B." Because, of course, 500 sounds more threatening. The Golden Rule and all that.

 

[General Lee]

I have to say that unless someone shows some other document saying Gary told the AT guys to take it or leave it, it damages some credibility here.

Yeah, everyone always documents exactly what they say to everyone.... Is that a court reporter following you? Idiot....


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[canyonblue]

He said that the company claimed that they had 100 people working on "Plan B."

Plan B? That was FO's starting engines, what did you think it was?

 

[canyonblue]

Hasn't happen yet. We have like 0 tranny airplanes over here.

I flew one recently. Had a single display for the Standby Instruments, and a slice of bologna from PCL marking a page in the QRH.