SWA/Airtran Process Agreement??

[On Your Six]

I'll take Delta Airlines for 1000 please Slaq.[/


Really? I thought AA just did one with them.

OYS

 

[GoodTimes]

http://atwonline.com/airports-route...odeshare-strategy-delta-interline-agreement-0

 

[On Your Six]

http://atwonline.com/airports-route...odeshare-strategy-delta-interline-agreement-0

Just read it, and it appears there is one, but Westjet still only flies to one of our hubs, LAX, only. No ATL, no JFK, no DTW, no MSP. So, if they don't go to any hub except one smaller one, how are they taking our flying? They may allow connections to places we will never go, like Yellowknife or Moncton, but not much else. And that article states SWA terminated their own talks when they learned Westjet was more interested in DL. Sour grapes??


OYS

 

[GoodTimes]

Yeah. I'm bummed we didn't get to codeshare and you did.

 

[redflyer65]

Just read it, and it appears there is one, but Westjet still only flies to one of our hubs, LAX, only. No ATL, no JFK, no DTW, no MSP. So, if they don't go to any hub except one smaller one, how are they taking our flying? They may allow connections to places we will never go, like Yellowknife or Moncton, but not much else. And that article states SWA terminated their own talks when they learned Westjet was more interested in DL. Sour grapes??


OYS

Just a matter of time before they come to DTW, MSP, and ATL.

Southwest will do Canada on their own. No need to codeshare, and will run more cargo than Westjet would have anyway.

As far as management is concerned, what's the percentage of aircraft that Delta owns outright? Maybe all leases?

RF

 

[slaquer5]

I'll take Delta Airlines for 1000 please Slaq.[/


Really? I thought AA just did one with them.

OYS

OY6 what Delta do you work for? My friends that work for DAL w/ HQ in ATL complain all the time of there work rules, rigs for pay,PBS ect. , and and how poor they are. The average SWA guy gets 18 days off a month. Last month I had only 14 days off and did 195 trips. You do the math.

 

[K-Mart]

Last month I had only 14 days off and did 195 trips. You do the math.

Have some modesty bro! Holy Batman! 195 trips and 14 days off.

 

[Bill Nelson]

"WE CAN'T TELL TRANNY WHAT TO DO, CUS WE DON'T OWN THEM." SWAPA does NOT own them. Your management will after the merger is complete, but SWAPA isn't losing a dime, and AT pilots don't owe you guys anything. Take the SLI to arbitration, and someone outside the box will figure out what is fair. Thanks for making my point. YOU DON'T OWN THE TRANNIES.


OYS

I'm not sure you get. AirTran will never have the numbers to make a meaningful difference in any vote. They will fly the 717's predominantly and the SWAPA pilot will determine the pay rates and work rules on that airframe for the rest of the Trannies careers if Gary ever combines the operations.

This is a fact you can't change.

 

[funnyman12]

Billy you better watch what ya wish for.....Gary Kelly has said he is looking for a 100-130 pax aircraft in the near future. Not a wise "vision" to hope for a B-scale. You should never dangle a carrot like that in front of management, even if SW management has historically been much different. Then again my post in response to your post probably gets your rocks off.....You are 100% incorrect and your solutions yield the worst culture. It is amazing that any pilot would support a B-scale or even the idea of a regional airline with the same size equipment. Though your posts are just your way of getting off...Then again I can be an azz and admittingly I understand that it can be fun. I look forward to contributing to the success of Southwest. In 10 days we will have the same Daddy....just cause i'm the step-kid doesn't mean he should abuse me. =)

 

[Ty Webb]

Baghdad Billy is pissed because he got back from his trip, and there was a new Harley parked in his driveway, with a big a on the gas tank. :laugh:

 

[texman]

Baghdad Billy is pissed because he got back from his trip, and there was a new Harley parked in his driveway, with a big a on the gas tank. :laugh:

Is that you gift, from the AT guy's.

 

[Ty Webb]

Is that you gift, from the AT guy's.

No, that's MY ride.

 

[jonjuan]

No, that's MY ride.

So, you were there visiting his wife?

 

[Ty Webb]

So, you were there visiting his wife?

No, what would I want with Bobby Dylan? :laugh:

 

[humveedriver]

They will fly the 717's predominantly and the SWAPA pilot will determine the pay rates and work rules on that airframe for the rest of the Trannies careers
This is a fact you can't change.

Sounds sweet.. short little hop on the Dallas Tollway to jump in my 717... sign me up.

 

[roughneck]

Sounds sweet.. short little hop on the Dallas Tollway to jump in my 717... sign me up.

Oh they didn't tell you? Your RJ's will be locked in ATL for LIFE.

 

[texman]

Sounds sweet.. short little hop on the Dallas Tollway to jump in my 717... sign me up.

You might be tolling it to Oak town.LOL

 

[Kharma Police]

Oh they didn't tell you? Your RJ's will be locked in ATL for LIFE.

Why not deploy the 717 or "RJs" where they can make the most money?

 

[roughneck]

Why not deploy the 717 or "RJs" where they can make the most money?

I'm sure they will make money at your current rates providing regional feed in ATL to mainline SWA.

 

[Ty Webb]

I'm sure they will make money at your current rates providing regional feed in ATL to mainline SWA.

Someone's got sand in her crack . . . . :laugh:

 

[funnyman12]

Yeah, airline management ALWAYS agree to make poor business decisions based on the pilots. I can hear Gary Kelly today on the conference call..."Well we would like to utilize the 717's on smaller markets throughout the system, but instead we will keep them in Atlanta potentially forever based on our pilot union's thoughts." I would suggest that guys that are just sitting around today listen to the conference call. I think Gary may have a different viewpoint than the flightinfo airline experts.

 

[Kharma Police]

I'm sure they will make money at your current rates providing regional feed in ATL to mainline SWA.

Still amazed at the spite that you and a few still exhibit. Sad (and shocking) that you wish to harm yourself because "our" daddy is making you share your toys (which "our" daddy bought, btw).

 

[texman]

I think the 717 are going to brazil, to allow TY to spread his seed of luv.LOL

 

[roughneck]

This is fun. Welcome aboard come May 2nd.

 

[kwick]

I think this board has clearly proven that
Southwest's hiring standards are no better and,judging from the posts on the SLI, may well be lower than most.

 

[funnyman12]

Daddy (SWA) asked Mommy (AT) to marry her.....she agreed. Daddy has a mansion and invited us to move in. Mommy's house was a nice house but not as nice as Daddy's. Though Mommy was doing well and gave us a brand new bicycle(quicker upgrade).....Daddy gave his kids a bicycle too but made them wait longer. Now we are moving into your house and Daddy says he will treat us like all his children. It wouldn't be nice for Daddy to take my bicycle and give it away.....I do think he should get you a bicycle too though.....all kidding aside this is similar to a second marriage. Usually one has more than the other and the one with less moves in with the other. I don't want our existence to hurt one SW pilot at all, but at the same time I don't want to be treated like a unwanted step child. The SLI will be fair....no SW pilot will be pushed lower at all but Airtran guys will be fairly ratio'd in. kinda funny I'm watching the history channel and it is about the 7 deadly sins. Most of those (envy, pride, greed, etc) are being displayed by the individuals that want us Airtran guys on the bottom. Almost like saying that your next door neighbor won the lottery (some like to use that expression) and because he has as much money as you, that this some how negatively affects you. That would be pride, jealousy, envy......I re-iterate that I do believe that no SW pilots seniority should be affected negatively in any way.

 

[redflyer65]

daddy is making you share your toys.

The "toys" come from SWAPA, who has been working hard for years to get the contract that you want.

 

[kwick]

Oh they didn't tell you? Your RJ's will be locked in ATL for LIFE.

And you may be flying them
with your seniority after the
arbitrator rules on the SLI.

 

[Kharma Police]

The "toys" come from SWAPA, who has been working hard for years to get the contract that you want, not Daddy.

If you want to be the bratty stepbrother so be it, thankfully most aren't like you.

 

[madjack]

Culture is fragile and impossible to redevelop...management SHOULD be very careful.