SWA/Airtran Process Agreement??

[On Your Six]

DAL lost $318 million, or $3.5 mil/day The press report states the will no longer serve sundaes on Europe flights to crew. The cost is killing the bottom line. Please say it isn’t so, General.

How much did you lose when all of your 737-300s were parked?

OYS

 

[FlyinGuy]

After the news came out this morning, our stock shot up 8%.

Typical airline stocks. Lose money stock goes up.
Make money stock down.
Nothing to see here.

If not, the Airtran guys will be given spots that are unfair.

How can it be unfair if they agree to it???

 

[On Your Six]

GL,

You got yourself a deal. And let's keep going with the 'Happy Days' theme. The SWA guys will take Fonzi. You seem like a good Potsie. And your sidekick OYS makes a perfect Ralph Malph. What a cast!

Maybe you should be Chachi, and Redflyer can be Jonie. Just remember, Jonie LUVS Chachi!


OYS

 

[T45Flyer]

Look at last year's results. Ours was a lot better than yours. Some airlines do a lot better than others during Q2 and Q3. We had $300 million in profit sharing last year alone. This year has been tougher on some, primarily the Japan stuff, and other problems some don't have. You, yourself have had a problem unique to your airline that will affect your own Q2 numbers, namely the temporary parking of 79 733s due to your tuna can incident. That may not give you a loss for Q2, but it will impact it somewhat negatively. (financially and via the media)


Bye Bye--General Lee

I had a Delta Captain on my jumpseat yesterday bragging about his $6,800 in profit sharing he recieved from last year. I didnt have the heart to tell him I had 14,500 as a SWA FO.

T45

 

[On Your Six]

Typical airline stocks. Lose money stock goes up.
Make money stock down.
Nothing to see here.



How can it be unfair if they agree to it???

Have they agreed to it yet? You and others assume and hope they will. Will you accept the binding arbitration?


OYS

 

[General Lee]

I had a Delta Captain on my jumpseat yesterday bragging about his $6,800 in profit sharing he recieved from last year. I didnt have the heart to tell him I had 14,500 as a SWA FO.

T45

I call BS on that one. A Captain made that little? I made over $10 grand and I am still an FO. Nah. If true, he flew very little.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[GoodTimes]

Delta lost how much again? Winning!

 

[General Lee]

Typical airline stocks. Lose money stock goes up.
Make money stock down.
Nothing to see here.



How can it be unfair if they agree to it???

Thanks Kramer. Great explanation. Anyway......if you beat expectations, your stock can go up, way up. That doesn't mean high oil in Libya can't drag it down the next day. And OYS is right, the Airtran guys haven't agreed to anything yet, and they have the arbitration provision in the Process Agreement. Why would they have done that? GK signed it, too. OOOOPS.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Delta lost how much again? Winning!

Winning compared to what we were expected to lose. I think we all knew we would lose something this quarter. But, again, everyone still predicts there will be a full year profit. One thing we can't predict yet is where you will be on the bottom of your combined list. That will be more interesting to watch.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Whataburger]

We don't need more gates. With AirTran's 30, we will be able to work 300 flights a day should we want/need to. That is more than 100 more than AirTran has now. We are doing fine in the New York market, and I am sure that we'll do fine in the A-T-L. More gates in LaGuardia, Gates in DCA = next year us flying your current passengers.

I hope we double everyone's pay. A happy employee is a good employee. Maybe you could come to SWA and double your pay?

It's like running from a bear. We don't have to be the best, we just have to do it better than you can.

You know as well as I do; a couple of pizza party's and a few wide-screens, and the A-T-L will be ours. Y'all might have to fire those cropdusters back up.

Congrats on not being as crappy as Wall Street thought!! Nice job!!

BTW...It's on.

PS. If we go to Birmingham, we'll be taxiing behind RJ's doing......you're flying.

Thanks for being a sport. You're the most funnest troll to feed.

Whataburger Sherman

Have nice day, play well out there, and always spay or neuter your pet.

 

[Whataburger]

I see you're an "active user" on this thread. Let me guess:

Incomming......rapid-D, LBB, PFT, Arbitration, fast taxiing....that's all you got. One big broken record.

NO MATTER how this SLI turns out, Southwest will be a bigger, more fomidable competitor in the Airline industry.....Period. It might take time for the smoke to clear, and a lot of pilots' feeling are gonna get hurt after the SLI (including mine,) but as adults we will eventually move on and continue to survive.

 

[GoodTimes]

General spin master

 

[General Lee]

We don't need more gates. With AirTran's 30, we will be able to work 300 flights a day should we want/need to. That is more than 100 more than AirTran has now. We are doing fine in the New York market, and I am sure that we'll do fine in the A-T-L. More gates in LaGuardia, Gates in DCA = next year us flying your current passengers.

I hope we double everyone's pay. A happy employee is a good employee. Maybe you could come to SWA and double your pay?

It's like running from a bear. We don't have to be the best, we just have to do it better than you can.

You know as well as I do; a couple of pizza party's and a few wide-screens, and the A-T-L will be ours. Y'all might have to fire those cropdusters back up.

Congrats on not being as crappy as Wall Street thought!! Nice job!!

BTW...It's on.

PS. If we go to Birmingham, we'll be taxiing behind RJ's doing......you're flying.

Thanks for being a sport. You're the most funnest troll to feed.

Whataburger Sherman

Have nice day, play well out there, and always spay or neuter your pet.

Again, how did you do in PHL? Still not growing as much as you thought there, eh? Too much USAir traffic? Yeah.......

And you will just add 100 more flight a day in ATL? Maybe we'll add 400? A new INTL terminal is almost complete on the East side of Terminal E. I am sure we will add even more fun destinations to far off lands from here. Sounds great. Maybe you guys will add ATL to TUL.

You will be getting more LGA gates, and now you also have EWR stuff. Enjoying that? Good. That must screw up your tight turn times. DCA is fun, and you already know how to do the slam dunk river visual type approaches, since you normally do that at regular airports. You'll fit right in. Talk about crop dusting. (don't split open any more of your 737s please doing that)

Doubling pay is great. I hope we do the same for our own contract negotiations starting next year. We helped you guys no doubt, so it is time to return the favor. But, doubling wages for everyone will cost more, and that means something for fares. Your fares aren't always the lowest, and you may try, but eventually you will have to pay for the bills, including less fuel hedges than you used to have. And, hopefully those Airtran employees are looking forward to working harder, and turning planes faster. They haven't been doing that for years, but you will spool them up to do it your way, within the next 5 years maybe.

Throwing pizza parties may have helped you in the past, but doing that in ATL just wont get you a short approach. You can try, and waste money on pizza. Speaking of Pizza, you might have to run down the concourse to get yourself one before you run back and do that walkaround in ATL. Your flight to Amarillo boards soon.

Wall Street did like our numbers compared to what they expected. Can't wait to see your Q2 numbers thanks to the tuna can incident. Every comedian out there had a field day with that one. Oh yeah, it was Boeing's fault. I didn't hear Leno say that last night.

And it will be ON (the dumbest SWA commercial I have ever seen). And those RJs you see in BHM are being parked fairly quick. You may see some more mainline equipment there soon, but I won't be flying them. I will be off flying somewhere fun, and enjoying the fact that you guys will be getting a fair shot at your SLI, which everyone knows you guys want too.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

General spin master

You got it. Related to James Carville.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

I see you're an "active user" on this thread. Let me guess:

Incomming......rapid-D, LBB, PFT, Arbitration, fast taxiing....that's all you got. One big broken record.

NO MATTER how this SLI turns out, Southwest will be a bigger, more fomidable competitor in the Airline industry.....Period. It might take time for the smoke to clear, and a lot of pilots' feeling are gonna get hurt after the SLI (including mine,) but as adults we will eventually move on and continue to survive.

There you go. FINALLY. You are starting to realize that eventually it will be better after a cooling off period. Everyone except the top guys will lose some seniority, and that is the way it goes. See, I do great work. You just have to realize that you can't control the situation.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[redflyer65]

Again, how did you do in PHL?

Bye Bye--General Lee

Dude you really need to educate yourself on stuff like this before opening your mouth. We are full coming and going with brand new gates.

Nice credibility...

 

[GoodTimes]

Sorry to hear that

 

[redflyer65]

How much did you lose when all of your 737-300s were parked?

OYS

We cancelled about 430 total flights over 3 days VS 3400 everyday, equals about or only about 4 percent of our total flights over just 3 days.

I've heard that DL was losing close to 20 percent of their revenue due to Japan and the rising fuel cost....not to change anytime soon.

 

[funnyman12]

The DAL vs. SWA argument is much better and more productive than the Airtran vs. SWA argument. Hopefully the integration is fair and efficient so the pilots of the combined SW will have the common goal of continuing the culture that has built such a great airline. Now continue the discussion.

 

[Whataburger]

GL, Adding 400 flights??????????

Taken from interview with Anderson:

"To that end, Anderson said Delta now plans to idle 140 of its older, less-efficient aircraft over the next 18 months, up from 120 announced in a March filing. The new total now includes the planned retirement of some larger aircraft used for trans-Atlantic flights.
:cartman:Moth-balling the aircraft will begin after Labor Day and reduce Delta’s system capacity by 4% this year, the company said. On the trans-Atlantic side, it would pull down capacity by 8% to 10%." :erm::cartman:

In addition it mentioned that Japan and Winter WX accounted for $100mil.

PS. We fly over 1,200,000 flights a year. I think we're doin' ok.

PHL is 1 of currently 65 stations. It will be one of 100 in a couple of years. Getting our own terminal proves we suck in PHL.

Your negotiations START next year?????????? Holy crap, no contract until 2014 or beyond. Hold your breath, once you turn Southwest Purple, repeat.