SWA/AAI SLI agreement in principle.

[27 driver]

22% loss of relative seniority across the board. Means the bottom 22% gets stapled. Question is it to the bottom of the 09/27/2010 list or current list.

22% Average seniority loss for AAI pilots. Average is the key word. Higher for some, lower for others. When it comes out for a vote look at and evaluate it. If it is fair it is fair. All I ask is that you look at the entire proposal and give it an objective vote.

 

[GuppyWN]

You could even wait for the entire proposal before speculating on its contents.

Gup

 

[madjack]

22% Average seniority loss for AAI pilots. Average is the key word. Higher for some, lower for others. When it comes out for a vote look at and evaluate it. If it is fair it is fair. All I ask is that you look at the entire proposal and give it an objective vote.


Its not a staple

 

[Britpilot]

Its not a staple

650 guys won't agree with you about that.

 

[redflyer65]

There were going to be alot of Airtran FO's on the bottom of the combined list no matter how you got there. Calling that a staple is a little disengenuous. By getting another 30% pay increase (plus the rest of the long list of improvements) by coming to the Southwest list after being on the bottom of the AAI list, there was just not many options. And I think most level headed people plainly understand that.

 

[madjack]

1700-650=1150 might...1150/1700=well its greater than 51%...

 

[madjack]

never do math in public...

 

[Britpilot]

There were going to be alot of Airtran FO's on the bottom of the combined list no matter how you got there. Calling that a staple is a little disengenuous. By getting another 30% pay increase (plus the rest of the long list of improvements) by coming to the Southwest list after being on the bottom of the AAI list, there was just not many options. And I think most level headed people plainly understand that.

Well, 650 will be stapled which is up to a 6 year guy.
No question that your contract and benefits are superior. However, with the ATL bade shrinking to around 850 pilots that leaves a lot of us on reserve and bouncing around the bases.
Guys will have to weigh all that up as well.

 

[hairball1173]

I think once the road shows start and the numbers and graphs are in front of you/us it will make better sense. Until then it's a what if at best.

 

[Britpilot]

I think once the road shows start and the numbers and graphs are in front of you/us it will make better sense. Until then it's a what if at best.

Agreed.

 

[redflyer65]

Brit,

I understand where you are coming from, but the devil will be in the details. I see ATL growing, but that will come from Gary. As stated, I think we will all have more clarity after the road shows. I honestly hope that none of you guys are forced to commute unless you want to. Hopefully they will address issues like that.

 

[Britpilot]

Brit,

I understand where you are coming from, but the devil will be in the details. I see ATL growing, but that will come from Gary. As stated, I think we will all have more clarity after the road shows. I honestly hope that none of you guys are forced to commute unless you want to. Hopefully they will address issues like that.

Yeah, I see that and I will go to a road show and try to figure all this out.
It was just the initial shock, which I am over now.
With the 717's being re- based, a lot of guys will have to start commuting, that is unavoidable.

 

[hairball1173]

I got my bags packed to follow the 717 wherever she takes me.

 

[Daddy]

You guys should understand that reserve is only 8% of the lines at SWA. It is also a workable moneymaker for many pilots here. There will be those among you who live in ATL that willingly bid reserve to get their trip totals up. It is a valid strategy for our contract. I would not sweat reserve too much....2 hour callout to report and no airport standby...it is not most people's dream, but it is not too bad compared to what you might be thinking it is.

 

[Britpilot]

I got my bags packed to follow the 717 wherever she takes me.

Got to love you 717 guys.