SWA/AAI SLI agreement in principle.

[islandhoper]

Optimistic. +1

+2:beer:

 

[WarnerNo13]

Let's not forget that even if the pilots do come to an agreement, from what I hear, the F/A's and mechanics are far from any agreement. We need all groups to come to agreements.

Add Dispatchers to that list.

 

[scoreboardII]

While other unions are a factor, pilots are the long pole in the tent, finish that deal, the others will fall into place mimicking their plan.

 

[LeeRoyJenkins]

They won't be stapled like the F9 offer. That means some Corndogs will be at the bottom of the list too, along with some AT pilots, who didn't have to pay for their types. That is a win.


OYS

"He who knows least commonly presumes most." Thomas Fuller

 

[Flyer1015]

If AT FOs get stapled= off to Arbitration we go. Do you think the AT pilots would take a staple? Do You think a 6-7 year FO losing 5 years seniority is fair?

And yet, that's precisely what happened to many Mesaba pilots in our binding arbitration award.

 

[SWA/FO]

Fence, retirements and growth will help.

 

[PropPiedmont]

And an early buyout program.

 

[fuzzy077]

I know this has probably been discussed, but what are the projected swa retirement numbers?

 

[scoreboardII]

150-200 a year.

 

[puddlejumper101]

While other unions are a factor, pilots are the long pole in the tent, finish that deal, the others will fall into place mimicking their plan.

That's a definite true statement, in fact, SWA was not going to mess with any other unions until the pilot deal was done. In fact, I bet once this is done SWA will ask SWAPA to help with the other intergrations.

 

[scoreboardII]

Doubtful, TWU ThoMMM has supposedly told SWAPA to shove it when offered help.

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

Doubtful, TWU ThoMMM has supposedly told SWAPA to shove it when offered help.

Because he doesn't need the SWAPA kind of help...The way the girls get Double and Triple time, we should be asking them for help...I think we need a "ME too" clause piggybacked to their contract, They use ours to their advantage but we get nothing from them! Who's the smart one's there?

KBB

 

[scoreboardII]

Uh, the guys making $200 an hour, not 45?

 

[Bob Dylan]

I am eased to see the optimism being expressed. Maybe Bagdad Bob will now find another airline to go harass.

Yep. My job here is done.

Thanks for playing. C ya.

 

[Ty Webb]

Yep. My job here is done.

Yep. Now you can return to your usual line of work:

http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/local_news/mobile_county/man-arrested-for-raping-miniature-horse

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[scoreboardII]

Good to see Ty "I don't make personal attacks" Webb back in action...

 

[canyonblue]

...I think we need a "ME too" clause piggybacked to their contract, They use ours to their advantage but we get nothing from them! Who's the smart one's there?

KBB

Not TWU. Actually, by having "Me too" clauses in their contract , they are actually hindering our negotiating capitol with the company. Any reputable Union would never hurt another Union by using "Me too" clauses. It only enables the company to pass on items within our reach, by using what they negotiated against us with, a ME TOO. Having "me too" clauses with the company, YES! Against another Union, NEVER.. TWU has screwed us.

 

[Ty Webb]

Good to see Ty "I don't make personal attacks" Webb back in action...

Little different when you're using real names and seniority numbers, and threatening retribution in the workplace, don't you think?

 

[Daddy]

I think you've made your own bed at SWA with your conduct here...good luck with that

 

[Cometman]

I think you've made your own bed at SWA with your conduct here...good luck with that

I agree. It is too late to change. The bed is made and now he has to sleep in it.

 

[ASADFW7]

I would hope after this is all said and down, we evaluate all incoming employees with respect and let their work performance speak for themselves, not their interest on communicating on web forums. SWA still has their own shadows of idiocy, that are attempting to be avoided.

 

[Skybus]

Not TWU. Actually, by having "Me too" clauses in their contract , they are actually hindering our negotiating capitol with the company. Any reputable Union would never hurt another Union by using "Me too" clauses. It only enables the company to pass on items within our reach, by using what they negotiated against us with, a ME TOO. Having "me too" clauses with the company, YES! Against another Union, NEVER.. TWU has screwed us.

Canyon,

Please only speak of things you have a clue about. This obviously is not one of these.

In your limited tenure, I can assure you there has not been ONE issue that you mention. Please enlighten us as to what specifically you are referring to and how it has hindered our negotiations or how TWU has "screwed" us.

Thank you in advance for your clarification.

Bus

 

[T45Flyer]

I think you've made your own bed at SWA with your conduct here...good luck with that

I totally disagree. I don't like many of the things Ty has said on here, BUT, I have said things on here that I regret also. I honestly think that once this SLI deal is put to bed and we all know where we stand, most of this sniveling will be forgotten.

I am equally as disturbed by what some of my SWAPA bretheren have said on here. Emotions are high, but I hope its time to put this all behind us and get on to the task at hand. Making lots o money and having fun while doing it!

Ty, if you could just lose the laughing face icons, I will buy the first round. Promise!

-T45

 

[Skybus]

Doubtful, TWU ThoMMM has supposedly told SWAPA to shove it when offered help.

Another clueless post. Am sure SWAPA has had limited engagement with TWU and can assure you they do not need help from SWAPA. Actually perhaps Thom and crew can help US negotiate our next contract.

 

[Dash Power]

Ty,

I personally warned about this months ago. But it seemed little good. If by chance we ever meet in a jetway, lounge, bar, etc., I will be completely professional as I always am. I will just not be friendly to you. You have showed your true colors so carelessly that people know who you are on an anonymous forum. Anyone else I know on this forum is because of friendly encounters and we have shared each others names. You were discovered because of your insulting attitudes and carelessness of who you shared your true identity.

If I were you, I would kill off Ty-Webb, spend the 10 bucks and reinvent yourself. That will be the only way some may forget you.

Good luck.

 

[ILUVURBANMYERS]

Dash Power +1

 

[Ty Webb]

I've got a feeling that anyone who would carry their dislike of Ty Webb into the real world workplace doesn't have much of a sense of humor, anyway.


Me, personally, if Baghdad Bob had the testicular fortitude to introduce himself, I'd shake his hand and laughingly tell him he's an ***********************************

In 15 years on FI, I've made a lot of friends, and helped a few get hired. I'm sure I'll meet quite a few of you, and hopefully, we'll have a chance to have a few beers and some laughs. If you don't want to, that's cool, too. I stopped worrying about playground stuff a long time ago.

Regds,
TW

 

[stalker]

Do not worry ty, I am sure pcl will be happy to share a corner table with you!

 

[Beech Balls]

If AT FOs get stapled= off to Arbitration we go. Do you think the AT pilots would take a staple? Do You think a 6-7 year FO losing 5 years seniority is fair?

They WON'T take a staple. But it's not going to be a clear staple.

However taking into account the following:
- they get a HUGE pay raise (avg is $68000 per pilot...AVERAGE)
- the BEST work rules
- almost all of them voted to strike (97% I believe it was?)
- not to mention many of them have their apps in at SWA, meaning they are willing to leave AT for the bottom of the SWA list and first-year pay...


Yeah. It's pretty fair. There...I said it.

 

[FIREMAN]

Bottom 380 AT Fos will get stapled.