SWA/AAI SLI agreement in principle.

[slaquer5]

Bottom 380 AT Fos will get stapled.

how do you come up with at number,by chance?

 

[FIREMAN]

22% loss of relative seniority across the board. Means the bottom 22% gets stapled. Question is it to the bottom of the 09/27/2010 list or current list.

 

[ArcadiaMaxima]

Regardless it would be to the snapshot date,...those hired after probably at the bottom and they knew that coming into this

 

[carl p]

How many have been hired on your side since 9/27?

 

[Flying the Line]

170 and now 80 more.

 

[ArcadiaMaxima]

I cameup with 224 on list right now from snapshot date

 

[wood pecker]

How does longevity fit in a staple job. For ex: if a 3 year FO makes X then gets put at bottom does he stay at X pay or get cut to Y.

 

[Empennage]

How does longevity fit in a staple job. For ex: if a 3 year FO makes X then gets put at bottom does he stay at X pay or get cut to Y.

How about for the 9 year fo?

 

[greenpilot]

How does longevity fit in a staple job. For ex: if a 3 year FO makes X then gets put at bottom does he stay at X pay or get cut to Y.

He will keep his longevity when it comes to pay and vacations. So a 3 year aai fo will be paid at 3 year swa pay.

 

[redflyer65]

22% loss of relative seniority across the board. Means the bottom 22% gets stapled. Question is it to the bottom of the 09/27/2010 list or current list.

Not sure that would fly with the SW side. Have to look at the entire package to see what else is in there.

 

[Bill Nelson]

22% loss of relative seniority across the board. Means the bottom 22% gets stapled. Question is it to the bottom of the 09/27/2010 list or current list.

I haven't heard that number but you peaked my curiosity. What if all of the Airtran Captains were on the top and all of the AirTran F/O's were on the bottom the relative seniority loss for your group would be 0%? Your "backing into" the numbers is a flawed way of figuring out the list. Furthermore, until SWAPA and ALPA put out the information everything else is just rumor.

I think I will wait until my NC puts out the details and not get to excited about what the pilot experts on this forum claim to know.

 

[carl p]

I cameup with 224 on list right now from snapshot date

Thanks.

 

[400ADude]

Good to see Ty "I don't make personal attacks" Webb back in action...

You can see Ty in action here:

http://weirdnews.about.com/b/2010/0...n-accused-of-raping-christie-brinkley-dog.htm

 

[scoreboardII]

Little different when you're using real names and seniority numbers, and threatening retribution in the workplace, don't you think?

Never did that, yet you keep making personal attacks even though you claim not too, your true colors showeth through.

 

[maxthrottle]

......

 

[27 driver]

22% loss of relative seniority across the board. Means the bottom 22% gets stapled. Question is it to the bottom of the 09/27/2010 list or current list.

22% Average seniority loss for AAI pilots. Average is the key word. Higher for some, lower for others. When it comes out for a vote look at and evaluate it. If it is fair it is fair. All I ask is that you look at the entire proposal and give it an objective vote.

 

[GuppyWN]

You could even wait for the entire proposal before speculating on its contents.

Gup

 

[madjack]

22% Average seniority loss for AAI pilots. Average is the key word. Higher for some, lower for others. When it comes out for a vote look at and evaluate it. If it is fair it is fair. All I ask is that you look at the entire proposal and give it an objective vote.


Its not a staple

 

[Britpilot]

Its not a staple

650 guys won't agree with you about that.

 

[redflyer65]

There were going to be alot of Airtran FO's on the bottom of the combined list no matter how you got there. Calling that a staple is a little disengenuous. By getting another 30% pay increase (plus the rest of the long list of improvements) by coming to the Southwest list after being on the bottom of the AAI list, there was just not many options. And I think most level headed people plainly understand that.