SWA - AAI question

[Lear70]

I only have two words for the citrus guys......Holding Company...or maybe staple staple ???

Two words: flame bait. And the Citrus guys ain't buyin'.

Nice try though, great 1st post with newly-created screen name.

 

[PapaWoody]

I only have two words for the citrus guys......Holding Company...or maybe staple staple ???

I agree with Lear, this serves no purpose. I'm all for holding to our position, but just trying to rile up the other side to no logical purpose doesn't help any of us out. Just my two cents.

Fraternally,
PW

 

[flynvixen]

Blah Blah Blah.......

I know lets take a staple to the bottom of the Air Tran list because we all want so much for them to be happy when they get here right ??

I am sure that they still would still find something to complain about even if we did that for them.

ALPA's only mission in this deal is to burn the Southwest house down, I only hope it takes 20 years for them to succeed. They are going to drag their feet until we all get the same deal that the America West guys got !!

 

[Ty Webb]

Blah Blah Blah.......

I know lets take a staple to the bottom of the Air Tran list because we all want so much for them to be happy when they get here right ??

I am sure that they still would still find something to complain about even if we did that for them.

ALPA's only mission in this deal is to burn the Southwest house down, I only hope it takes 20 years for them to succeed. They are going to drag their feet until we all get the same deal that the America West guys got !!

"Blah, Blah, Blah" was right. You should have stopped right there. That was the most intelligent thing you have written. :laugh:

 

[johnsonrod]

I only have two words for the citrus guys......Holding Company...or maybe staple staple ???

Just won't happen. The three words you will be saying will be "pooped my pants."

 

[redflyer65]

Johnsonrod,

When did you NOT get hired? Your legendary anti-Southwest spin has to have something behind it...

You weren't the guy who got fired in training were you?

 

[PCL_128]

You mean transitional items that you want to drag into the process agreement. Don't you?

I don't think there is anything in the proposed process agreement that doesn't belong there. You are welcome to disagree, but that doesn't make you right. There are two sides to this negotiation. SWAPA will represent your interests, and ALPA will represent ours. No reason to get upset about it.

I bet Steve Chase isn't there.

You have your structure, we have ours. Why are you worried about ours?

 

[Bill Nelson]

Why are you worried about ours?

The same reason your members are worried. ALPA sucks and if ALPA is allowed to run free it will screw this deal up for both sides and nobody seems to trust you.

 

[redflyer65]

Excellent post Bill. Watch and be amazed.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

The same reason your members are worried. ALPA sucks and if ALPA is allowed to run free it will screw this deal up for both sides and nobody seems to trust you.

I'm not worried at all, i'd much rather have ALPA representing me than NPA.

 

[Lear70]

I'm not worried at all, i'd much rather have ALPA representing me than NPA.

+1

I trust my MEC and MC, but I also verify, as should every pilot at BOTH airlines. Stay engaged, stay informed, and don't get yourself all worked up over rumor and ESPECIALLY FlightInfo. This site is here primarily for entertainment value, and sometimes actually has factual information...

Fly safe, ya'll.

 

[GuppyWN]

This site is here primarily for entertainment value, and sometimes actually has factual information...

Truer words were NEVER spoken!

Gup

 

[Ty Webb]

The same reason your members are worried. ALPA sucks and if ALPA is allowed to run free it will screw this deal up for both sides and nobody seems to trust you.

ALPA only offers resources and advice. It will be up to our MC to work out a deal with SWAPA to put to a membership vote. Our MC is comprised of AirTran line pilots.

 

[flynvixen]

Just won't happen. The three words you will be saying will be "pooped my pants."

Hey Johnsonrod you have been drinking the ALPA koolaid and should really cut back. If guys think you are going to get all the goodies that you already have been given and then get ahead of our guys you have another thing coming I can assure you. During the Frontier deal you guys were all saying you would gladly take a staple now you want us to take the staple, keep dreaming and ease up on the ALPA crack.

 

[johnsonrod]

Hey Johnsonrod you have been drinking the ALPA koolaid and should really cut back. If guys think you are going to get all the goodies that you already have been given and then get ahead of our guys you have another thing coming I can assure you. During the Frontier deal you guys were all saying you would gladly take a staple now you want us to take the staple, keep dreaming and ease up on the ALPA crack.

Sorry drunkard, but you are dreaming. And you bring up the Frontier deal. What? I wasn't a part of that, and even they told you to shove it. No, arbitrators will be involved this time, not GK saving your butts. That means sharing your seniority. Get used to it, and get sober before your next flight. And, pop in a breath mint Slider, you stink.....

 

[Crash Pad]

Oh the maturity just amazes me every time you post. Do you read these things before you hit reply?

 

[johnsonrod]

Oh the maturity just amazes me every time you post. Do you read these things before you hit reply?

Maturity involves understanding and accepting the facts and reality, which is something neither you, nor most Southwest pilots can do. Eventual arbitration will NOT produce a staple job. There will be current Southwest pilots at the bottom of a combined list. Realize this, and move forward with life.

 

[Bill Nelson]

There will be current Southwest pilots at the bottom of a combined list. Realize this, and move forward with life.

Brother I hope you get help soon or your lottery win will be a waste. I just wish I wasn't the guy who bought it for you. I feel like we created a monster. Or 1700.

 

[johnsonrod]

Brother I hope you get help soon or your lottery win will be a waste. I just wish I wasn't the guy who bought it for you. I feel like we created a monster. Or 1700.

Look sister, I don't work for AT. I am just a fan, waiting for the fireworks. And after the arbitrators are done, there will be some. YOU are not buying anything for the Airtran guys, Southwest is. You aren't losing anything but seniority, and that is up to the arbitrators. Get used to that fact.

 

[funnyman12]

BTW guys....A majority of Airtran guys, including myself, do not have a high repect for ALPA. Problem was that our in house union (NPA) was laughable. ALPA gave us some money and legal representation to fight our Frank Lorenzo management team and it did help us out. The merger is not between two ALPA carriers so the main responsibilty lies on the MC, which as Lear said are line pilots. I know, after the dust settles, SW and Airtran guys will realize that we are a very similar pilot group. I commute on DAL, UsAir, CA, and Airtran......the Airtran guys are, for the most part, a different breed. I imagine a pretty similar breed to SW. I'm not gonna speak for our other labor groups. Once again I'm looking forward to working with you guys.