SWA - AAI question

[funnyman12]

You guys wanna know my biggest fear.....im afraid that if arbitration is going poorly for SWAPA they will potentially try to delay the integration to force us to take something close to a staple. Iran and Israel get into it and im close to the bottom of 8000 pilots. At Airtran im no where close to the bottom. Guys im human like you, im afraid of having a larger chance of furlough due to poor SLI. Us guys at Airtran have families too. We have to consider the worst case scenario. Every SW pilot in my shoes would share the same concern.

 

[funnyman12]

Bake...if this acquisition goes smooth, it will make your airline larger and stronger. Why would you hope it falls through? Do you not trust Gary Kelly?

 

[funnyman12]

10% growth of 6000 pilots is 600 new hires and upgrades. 10% growth of 8000 pilots is 800 new hires and upgrades. Sound pretty good to me.

 

[Bake]

funnyman, I understand that completely. I'm sure our guys at the bottom feel the same way. It's not all about you except to you. No one at SWA wants anybody to get furloughed, that includes our tranny brothers.

 

[Bake]

When you have 8000 pilots and then hire a new pilot you must hire 4000 more to make him a captain and achieve his full pay potential (assuming no retirements). When you have 6000 you need to hire 1000 less. Think about it.

SWA may be larger and stronger when this is all done, I don't disagree. But we not very weak right now and I can live with that.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

Bake, if your pilots are that quick to forego increased revenue for your beloved employer in favor of pursuing personal gains, did it ever occur to you that your beloved management may forego any efforts of mainting culture for their precious pilots so that they can pursue the financial gians for the shareholders? It would be ironic if GK actually sided with ATN ALPA in holding SWAPA to the 18 month deadline for integration. I wouldn't bet against it, GK will get this deal done whether any of us want it to happen or not.

 

[Bake]

I believe GK has always taken care of the shareholders first. That will never change and you are not shedding any light on any dark spaces. Thanks for playing though and don't call me precious!!!

 

[GuppyWN]

When you have 8000 pilots and then hire a new pilot you must hire 4000 more to make him a captain and achieve his full pay potential (assuming no retirements). When you have 6000 you need to hire 1000 less. Think about it.

SWA may be larger and stronger when this is all done, I don't disagree. But we not very weak right now and I can live with that.

Actually Bake, if you start with 8,000 pilots you'll need to hire 8,000 more for the most junior to upgrade.

 

[Bake]

Sorry Gup, math in public and my blood is not running full rich right now.

 

[GuppyWN]

did it ever occur to you that your beloved management may forego any efforts of mainting culture for their precious pilots so that they can pursue the financial gians for the shareholders?

How's that working for American?