SWA - AAI question

[Bill Nelson]

So, there has to be negotiators present for the transition items that don't deal directly with the SLI process.

Swapa tells us that ALPA has no place in Swapa Transition talks and your Transition Talks will be with AirTran. So why are your Transition Team members at the process agreement negotiations? The Process Agreement deals with SLI issues exclusively. Who is holding up the process agreement again?

 

[PCL_128]

You've received bad information on several items. I'll let you sort that out with your reps.

 

[Bill Nelson]

If you are attempting to say that ALPA will be involved with our transition talks I'd say you are the one who is misinformed. Your transition issues will be dealt with by AirTran management and those issues are not related to the SLI negotiations. So I'll ask again, why are you holding up the SLI talks?

 

[Hose A. Jiminez]

T.O.,

Is Bill incorrect in saying that: 1. ALPA has no place in SWAPA transition talks, 2. Your transition team members were at the Process Agreement negotiations, or 3. The Process Agreement deals with SLI issues exclusively?

Thanks

 

[texman]

The transition agreement is between the two parties meaning SWA and SWAPA. THIS IS CALLED A ACQUISITION, NOT TWO BANKRUPT/ALPA CARRIERS. HELLO!

 

[dicko]

T.O.,

Is Bill incorrect in saying that: 1. ALPA has no place in SWAPA transition talks, 2. Your transition team members were at the Process Agreement negotiations, or 3. The Process Agreement deals with SLI issues exclusively?

Thanks

I think this is how it works:

AirTran ALPA- Merger Committee (MC) deals with SLI. Transition Team (TT) deals with Process agreement.

SWAPA - Merger Committee deals with both of the above.


Since SWAPA's structure uses their MC to deal with both agreements, ALPA decided to use both its MC and TT to work on the Process agreement. When the SLI talks begin only the ATN ALPA MC will be involved.

L.H. elected himself to be a part of the AirTran Transition team. I'm assuming that's why he's there.

If I just stated the obvious then I apologize. If I screwed it up then I'm sure PCL will correct it.

 

[PCL_128]

Mostly correct. The Transition Team wouldn't normally be involved in process agreement talks, but since this isn't an ALPA/ALPA merger, there are some extra items in the Process Agreement that need the involvement of the negotiators. LH didn't "elect himself" to be on the Transition Team, he's just automatically a member of all committees as the MEC Chairman. The only exception is for SLI, when only the MC will be present for negotiations.

 

[Crash Pad]

So tell me again. What does ALPA have to with these talks? You can use all these acronyms, but why dont they focus on things like scope with, I don't know, say...UAL/CAL? Let's move forward, what about DAL and

it's funny that you ALPA cats wouldnt give a cr@p about this if it was a an Alaska/Bedford transaction. Or an Orenthal/Hawaii scenario, wait, that did happen, and remind me how that turned out?




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[flynvixen]

I only have two words for the citrus guys......Holding Company...or maybe staple staple ???

 

[ivauir]

Mostly correct. The Transition Team wouldn't normally be involved in process agreement talks, but since this isn't an ALPA/ALPA merger, there are some extra items in the Process Agreement that need the involvement of the negotiators.

You mean transitional items that you want to drag into the process agreement. Don't you? I've been ALPA before, I can read between the lines.

LH didn't "elect himself" to be on the Transition Team, he's just automatically a member of all committees as the MEC Chairman. The only exception is for SLI, when only the MC will be present for negotiations.

PCL

That doesn't make any sense. The process agreement is part of the SLI:

Process Agreement:
The procedure for SWAPA and ALPA to negotiate an integrated seniority list. This agreement is specific to our seniority integration talks

I bet Steve Chase isn't there.