SW has a TA

[rajflyboy]

SWA is all about making money bottom line

Oh Sure

The Last 6 months the Bottom Line has been Great!!

 

[Lear70]

Sorry to hear that, I'm hearing the same thing from my friends there, that the codeshare is an immediate non-starter.

Loss of Scope, in any form, should be VERY obvious to anyone looking in as a big problem...

 

[Tanker Clown]

It will pass the board, and 3000 pilots will say YES.
The most vocal on these boards, including myself, do not represent the overall 51% of the pilot groups views.
The wildcard, yes like, "You're a wildcard Maverick, you fly by the seat of your pants," is the military contingent. They have no airline experience to compare SWA to and they have no Section 6 experience. An undetermined number will vote NO because they've been told how horrible it is here, and many will vote YES because they will follow the shepard over the cliff. Who knows. One thing I do believe is that it will be 65% YES and 35% NO

Military people are by nature more supportive of the team and the big picture as a whole. From what you guys are saying, it sounds like the company is giving you a great deal (considering these tough economic times.) It sounds like SWA gets money for nothing by codesharing.

If I were in your shoes, I'd totally vote for it. But then again, I would want to see my company do well.

 

[Max Powers]

Military people are by nature more supportive of the team and the big picture as a whole. From what you guys are saying, it sounds like the company is giving you a great deal (considering these tough economic times.) It sounds like SWA gets money for nothing by codesharing.

If I were in your shoes, I'd totally vote for it. But then again, I would want to see my company do well.

Your right Military people are more supportive of the team in general - they are good followers. Having served 8 years many of my friends "think" they have a better view of the "big picture" but in reality that is where your logic is flawed. The "big picture" is pushing for the collective good of your pilot force. In other words "if a 737 can fly there then no way to code share". Don't give up your jobs folks to lower paying folks our whole profession is counting on you keeping the bar in place where you heroically set it.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

It will pass the board, and 3000 pilots will say YES.
The most vocal on these boards, including myself, do not represent the overall 51% of the pilot groups views.
The wildcard, yes like, "You're a wildcard Maverick, you fly by the seat of your pants," is the military contingent. They have no airline experience to compare SWA to and they have no Section 6 experience. An undetermined number will vote NO because they've been told how horrible it is here, and many will vote YES because they will follow the shepard over the cliff. Who knows. One thing I do believe is that it will be 65% YES and 35% NO

It is true that the majority of military aviators do not trust the union. I see it here every day.

 

[FlyingSig]

It is true that the majority of military aviators do not trust the union. I see it here every day.

They may not trust them but they always vote what the union says to do.

 

[TZtoSWA]

They may not trust them but they always vote what the union says to do.

They may at Delta but not here...

 

[Ih8AFYesmen]

They may not trust them but they always vote what the union says to do.

Perhaps you are referring to the ones collecting a retirement check from uncle Sam. Most ex-mil types in the airlines whom I know are not that sort of sheep.

 

[FlyingSig]

Name one vote in the last 10 years (actually, 25 years) at Delta that the pilots said no to. Now what percentage of pilots at DAL have a military background (hint, more then half).

 

[sfomarc]

I will be voting no based on any codeshare which can be served by SWA in a 737. Want to codeshare with Japan Airlines, Cathay Pacific, Air France, have at it. Mexico and Canadian carriers utilizing narrow body AC, NO WAY.

 

[Herkdrv]

I will be voting no based on any codeshare which can be served by SWA in a 737. Want to codeshare with Japan Airlines, Cathay Pacific, Air France, have at it. Mexico and Canadian carriers utilizing narrow body AC, NO WAY.

Same view here. And for the record I am ex-military.

 

[Benhuntn]

whata bugger 3000 does not equal 65% sorry you need to stop doing math in public. 65% is more like 3870+/- If 65% say yes then that is good enough for me.

 

[Whataburger]

whata bugger 3000 does not equal 65% sorry you need to stop doing math in public. 65% is more like 3870+/- If 65% say yes then that is good enough for me.

Two thoughts went into that post:
1. ALL this thing needs is 3000 YESes.
2. I predict it will be 65/35.

I am a Texan, and fuzzy math makes up 6 of our 12 years of school. Roughly 75%.

AND, it's WHATABURGER, pronounced "WATERBURGER," so get yourself a "Speak and Spell."

As Mr. White says, "I wasn't in public until I was thrown into public."

 

[Jolly Roger]

now that there is some funny shiznit.

 

[Whataburger]

whata bugger 3000 does not equal 65% sorry you need to stop doing math in public. 65% is more like 3870+/- If 65% say yes then that is good enough for me.

Just finished another Rocky Mountain Creek Water. So therefore I said to my self, "Self, what is a "Whata Bugger 3000?" One of those doo-hickeys that you hook you'r propane tank to to keep the skeeters out of the trailer?

 

[DH2WN]

This will, likely, not even make it past the Board.

I don't think you have been paying attention.

It will get voted in because too many pilots are stupid.

 

[Benhuntn]

OOOOOOPS! My bad man I was just blindly typing. Just like I blindly follow. Just blindly generalizing too!

 

[Whataburger]

OOOOOOPS! My bad man I was just blindly typing. Just like I blindly follow. Just blindly generalizing too!

Angry at 8:08am? Have a nice day and let's hope for a TA soon.

 

[Benhuntn]

Never angry...and not a sheep. Have a great trip.

 

[Sy-bill]

A SWA friend of mine just said that you guys are about to vote in a concessionary contract.

Whats up with that?