SW has a TA

[StopNTSing]

A SWA friend of mine just said that you guys are about to vote in a concessionary contract.

Whats up with that?

I hope not, but everything is rumor & conjecture at this point. Still needs final language, BoD approval, and THEN we get to see & approve the turd.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Is it an actual pay cut? I heard that the 401k match was increased. You guys should take that and run.

 

[Reebo]

Is it an actual pay cut? I heard that the 401k match was increased. You guys should take that and run.

All I've heard is 3% pay increase, increased 401K match, full retro and NO DOMESTIC CODE SHARE.

We'll see what it looks like when it comes out.

 

[Tanker Clown]

In this environment, that sounds like a great deal. It doesn't look like you have to give anything up.

 

[Reebo]

In this environment, that sounds like a great deal. It doesn't look like you have to give anything up.

We'll have to see what the definition of "Domestic" flying is.

Does it mean no codeshare to Hawaii and Alaska?

How much flying are we giving away to West Jet and Volaris?

We'll just have to read section 1 and see what it looks like.

 

[Tanker Clown]

International doesn't look like it's anywhere in your business plan, so it looks like "no harm, no foul" there. Since AK and HI have an ICAO identifier that doesn't start with a K, I would assume that they are international. Military guys file a 175 in the lower 48, but an 1801 international (to include AK and HI).

 

[Reebo]

International doesn't look like it's anywhere in your business plan, so it looks like "no harm, no foul" there. Since AK and HI have an ICAO identifier that doesn't start with a K, I would assume that they are international. Military guys file a 175 in the lower 48, but an 1801 international (to include AK and HI).

We shall see. Wish us luck

 

[Splert]

We'll have to see what the definition of "Domestic" flying is.

Does it mean no codeshare to Hawaii and Alaska?

How much flying are we giving away to West Jet and Volaris?

We'll just have to read section 1 and see what it looks like.

Isn't flying from the USA to Canada domestic and under US domestic rules?

Why would a SWA FO vote to give his/her upgrade to a WestJet/Volaris FO?

 

[redflyer65]

That's one of the best questions I've seen. It really cuts through all the smoke and mirrors.

 

[Daddy]

I don't think you have been paying attention.

It will get voted in because too many pilots are stupid.

Truest statement I have read on this site ever

 

[GuppyWN]

Why would a SWA FO vote to give his/her upgrade to a WestJet/Volaris FO?

How did Jim Jones get over 900 people to drink the koolaid?

Blind faith and optimism. Look what it got them.

Don't blame me cause I'm voting no.

Gup

 

[jonjuan]

How did Jim Jones get over 900 people to drink the koolaid?

Blind faith and optimism. Look what it got them.

Don't blame me cause I'm voting no.

Gup

Speaking of blind faith....

It was Flavoraid...not sure where people get the Koolaid thing.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2008/11/09/sot.jim.jones.massacre.cnn

 

[Reebo]

How did Jim Jones get over 900 people to drink the koolaid?

Blind faith and optimism. Look what it got them.

Don't blame me cause I'm voting no.

Gup

Me too!!!!

 

[vixin]

I am a big NO!

 

[instructordude]

How can you vote no to pay raises in an environment where unemployment is reaching 10%???

I'd be happy with a 3% paycut if it helps the company!

 

[shootr]

To show my bias, I'll likely vote "no" over international codeshare and marketing. I have not seen a TA so I can't say for sure. But mark my words...it'll pass by about 65% with 95% voting.

shootr

 

[thrasher]

You guys are idiots. You have not even seen the contract proposal and your already voting no. I think the rumor of a slight pay raise and a 401K increase is pretty darn good in this economy. wait to see the proposal.

 

[Hardcorr]

There are plenty of us ex militart/prior legacy guys at SWA. We know the score. I'm a no vote. Even before I've seen it. Tankertool is still a clown without clue. Hope I never find out who this idiot is. Definately a black list candidate in my eyes. Seems to have a lot off input to a fight he's not in.

 

[Bake]

Thrasher, PM us your real name so you can call us idiots at the bar, Please????

 

[Herkdrv]

You guys are idiots. You have not even seen the contract proposal and your already voting no. I think the rumor of a slight pay raise and a 401K increase is pretty darn good in this economy. wait to see the proposal.

Let me guess. You thought age 65 was a wonderful idea as well. How's your upgrade coming along? Codeshare will make it longer.