Spirit #) day cooling off period ...

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I think we all can agree that the lack of communication from our MEC is frustrating for us, and I believe inexcusable on their part. However this type of anger that is directed at our MEC is just what the management wants, I just ask that since you cannot change an MEC today, lets stand behind them for now and stay united. When this is over the pilots can vent by voting them out or getting a recall vote started. For now, stay the course!

wise man boomlrd! Could you be the next candidate??

 

[Gearthrower]

I think we all can agree that the lack of communication from our MEC is frustrating for us, and I believe inexcusable on their part. However this type of anger that is directed at our MEC is just what the management wants, I just ask that since you cannot change an MEC today, lets stand behind them for now and stay united. When this is over the pilots can vent by voting them out or getting a recall vote started. For now, stay the course!

Actually, the MEC/SPSC Chairman has been updating the VARS/sending out fastreads on a roughly 48 hour basis for a couple weeks now......I'm just sayin.

 

[Mike man]

Actually, the MEC/SPSC Chairman has been updating the VARS/sending out fastreads on a roughly 48 hour basis for a couple weeks now......I'm just sayin.

VARS, hello SPA MEC welcome to 1970 when the VARS was the only way to get info. I'd much rather have an email or a message board (sanctioned by the MEC) to get my info, and to ask my questions instead of calling a SPSC rep to ask for info they don't know anyway.

 

[Gearthrower]

VARS, hello SPA MEC welcome to 1970 when the VARS was the only way to get info. I'd much rather have an email or a message board (sanctioned by the MEC) to get my info, and to ask my questions instead of calling a SPSC rep to ask for info they don't know anyway.

I guess you missed the part about fastreads. That's an email the last time I checked........I'm just sayin.

 

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I guess you missed the part about fastreads. That's an email the last time I checked........I'm just sayin.

I guess they got used to the last MEC drowning them in info...........I'm just sayin.

 

[boomlrd]

wise man boomlrd! Could you be the next candidate??

Thanks for the kind words, but I understand the level of committment needed in order to take a position on the MEC. I could not possibly give all the effort it would take to run for a position with the MEC. Maybe when my extra-curricular activities settle down in the future I could commit to the cause, but for now, they will just get my full support.

 

[LITCHAT7]

but I understand the level of committment needed in order to take a position on the MEC.

Thankfully somebody does. Others just seem to piss and moan.

 

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Thankfully somebody does. Others just seem to piss and moan.

the MEC not only knew what it was getting into, lots of the trouble is self inflicted.

If they were doing anything they would be getting more support. Like it or not the MEC positioned itself as men who would get things done. They went after managers trying to get them fired. didn't happen. They went after BBB, hasn't happened. They went after a release, hasn't happened. They don't communicate or offer too little too late. They run an ineffective organization and are counting on anti company anger for unity.

Busting on members for failing to bow down to their majesty won't cut it. We support the union. We have a right to disagree with the way they conduct our work.

 

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When is jetblue hiring?? (

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[bottomfeeder]

3 F-ing weeks. Un-F-in-believable...

 

[boomlrd]

This decision to release us into the cooling off period must be really important to the NMB due to 3 weeks of deliberation, this is unbelievable!

 

[enigma]

This decision to release us into the cooling off period must be really important to the NMB due to 3 weeks of deliberation, this is unbelievable!

The time frame is unbelievable only to those who failed to think on their own. First, and I know that I repeat myself, the RLA is not intended to be a vehicle for contract negotiation. The RLA and the NMB it created, are intended to prevent disruptions in transportation.
Second, we do NOT operate in a vacuum. The NMB must consider the overall effect on the industry before they release the Spirit group or Spirit itself.
Third, the NMB is a political organization. They are first restricted by the intent of the RLA and secondly they are controlled by politics. When one combines those two considerations, one sees that paralysis is just one step away.

Like it or not, Wall Street controls both political parties. Obama received more money from Wall Street than did McCain. Oaktree and Indigo are both financial (read Wall Street) institutions. Neither side want's to damage donors. The NMB will make a decision once both sides find political cover for the result.

and all of that is another good reason for not counting on the NMB when you plan a negotiation strategy.

 

[Mike man]

anything less than 100% retro pay = NO VOTE for me

 

[ultrarunner]

I'd have to agree...why on earth bargain away something that is rightfully yours, AND that you haven't even gotten yet!

But it's past bargaining at this point, since you're simply awaiting the proffer, so that you can refuse it, and begin your 30-day countdown to self-help.

And just in time for the summer travel season....

NICE!

 

[boomlrd]

anything less than 100% retro pay = NO VOTE for me

I agree 100%!!