Southwest submits proposal to acquire Frontier Airlines

[CrownandCoke]

don't know if anyone posted about Lynx yet, but remember there's over 120 pilots there too

 

[PreContact]

How many F9 pilots retire in the next 5 years?

 

[NuGuy]

Heyas,

Watch for DAL to make a play for Alaska shortly. Even the mighty SWA can't pull in two directions at once. Frontier is the perfect distraction, and I bet RA even put Republic up
to this just to sucker SWA in.

Nu

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

don't know if anyone posted about Lynx yet, but remember there's over 120 pilots there too

Do you really think anybody is worried about THEM??

BTW, funniest avatar comment award goes hands-down to you!

 

[vtwo]

All true , I think this would be the first time this law would be used...

Then why are Northwest, Compass, Pinacle, and Mesaba not on one list?

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Heyas,

Watch for DAL to make a play for Alaska shortly. Even the mighty SWA can't pull in two directions at once. Frontier is the perfect distraction, and I bet RA even put Republic up
to this just to sucker SWA in.

Nu

Nu,

You are giving Dick "I'm not here to merge the airline" Anderson toooooo much credit.

 

[AlbieF15]

I am reminded of the FAR SIDE cartoon with missionaries/explorers being all giddy at the warm reception of the villagers...oblivous to all the heads on stakes nearby of similiar missionaries/explorers.

The guys firing the warning shots (like HAL) have lived a SWA merger. The guys who are optimistic are reading press clippings. SWA captains will have zero interest in adding other folks on top of them. SWA FOs, especially those junior that are bouncing between bases, also have little interest in assisting anything other than a staple job. 4000 pissed off pilots can exert a lot of pressure on a company that thrives on fuel savings, tight turns, and a sense of teamwork to eek out profitablity.

I have friends at SWA and Frontier. I don't want my junior buddies at SWA screwed into being bounced out of base. I don't want my Frontier friends out of work. I am afraid one of them will occur, and my bet is that my Frontier friends need to consider looking for work. I suspect the "hiring" will be remarkably similar to standard SWA hiring, which means they will take 25-35% of the who they interview. The ATA numbers were much more abysmal.

Good luck to all involved...seriously....

 

[StopNTSing]

everyone is making this sound like a done deal. i would not be surprised if jetblue or virgin america put a bid in

I don't mean to make this into a "my dad can lick your dad," but really, how many times have you seen SWA outbid at an auction?

 

[Mea25000]

No one is going to buy AS we cost way too much

 

[Jetjockey]

A buying of assets.....not a merger.

Ask the ATA guys how that worked out. Whatever makes you guys sleep better at night.

 

[Colonel Savage]

don't know if anyone posted about Lynx yet, but remember there's over 120 pilots there too

Well since you brought it up, and since SWAPA's contract prohibits domestic codeshare, what would happen to the Lynx operation and pilots under a fully integrated merger senario?

 

[shearedshaft]

SWAPA's contract doesn't prohibit domestic codeshare at all. The tentative agreement did, but the pilots voted that down. Now we're purchasing Frontier, I suspect that makes SL32 null and void due to the hull growth.

Right now, under the current contract, SWA can codeshare as much as it wants, domestically and internationally, near and far. The only restriction is that it has to grow by some number of hulls after January of this year, I can't remember how many that is.

 

[shootr]

Nothing discussed here would have been preventable in the failed TA. It would all have been allowed under the exception provisions. F9/Lynx were the reasons for these exceptions. Sheared, you don't even know what you voted yes on!

shootr

 

[shootr]

Oh...and SL32 is specific requiring a 5% growth of our B737 fleet. No mention of airbuses of an alter-ego airline.

 

[shearedshaft]

Oh...and SL32 is specific requiring a 5% growth of our B737 fleet. No mention of airbuses of an alter-ego airline.

Re-read it. Doesn't mention aircraft type. Just number of hulls.