Southwest has NO plans to furlough if 717s leave, from GK

[texman]

I was talking to a WN f/a a couple days ago that told me they stopped all training for the 717 so the rumors must be true .

LOL! Training hasn't even started, for the 717?????????

 

[PCL_128]

Those flight attendants, always the best source for the latest intel.

 

[outerlimits]

I was talking to a WN f/a a couple days ago that told me they stopped all training for the 717 so the rumors must be true .

I had one tell me to come to her room for just one drink .

It ended up being a crazy night .

 

[On Your Six]

For a "done deal," it's certainly taking an awful long time for any details to leak out. I have a feeling that they can't come to terms on a deal.

Supposedly Airbus came in with a similar deal for used A319s at similar prices with no pilots included. Maybe there is a glut out there due to European airlines going BK? We'll see which one wins, but I doubt any pilots will be coming along with planes, since it would be via the lessors.

Godspeed!


The OYSter

 

[180ToTheMarker]

Just heard today: 12 717s to Delta in Jan 2013 with AT pilots...who knows whats really going on???

 

[fam62c]

Just heard today: 12 717s to Delta in Jan 2013 with AT pilots...who knows whats really going on???

Delta already has pilots so why would they need more pilots to come with planes that will replace other planes? SW has already said that they will replace the 717's one-for-one with new deliveries so they wouldn't need fewer pilots. I don't pretend to know what's going on with the 717's but no pilots are going with them if they go, of that you can be sure.

 

[outerlimits]

Delta already has pilots so why would they need more pilots to come with planes that will replace other planes? SW has already said that they will replace the 717's one-for-one with new deliveries so they wouldn't need fewer pilots. I don't pretend to know what's going on with the 717's but no pilots are going with them if they go, of that you can be sure.

It is in the ALPA bylaws.

They are two ALPA carriers , the AT pilots go with the aircraft .

It will be nice to see the AirTran pilots that go to DAL get seat protection and ALPA senority .

The AT pilots deserve what General Lee and OY6 have been saying they deserve.

 

[fam62c]

It is in the ALPA bylaws.

They are two ALPA carriers , the AT pilots go with the aircraft .

It will be nice to see the AirTran pilots that go to DAL get seat protection and ALPA senority .

The AT pilots deserve what General Lee and OY6 have been saying they deserve.

It's never going to happen.

 

[outerlimits]

It's never going to happen.

Most likely not. But If DAL takes the aircraft they will be taking the pilots

 

[Lear70]

Most likely not. But If DAL takes the aircraft they will be taking the pilots

That's not what our CBA says.

What it DOES say is IF an (unspecified) number of aircraft (more than 30% of our block hours over the previous 12 months) are sold TO ANOTHER CERTIFICATED AIR CARRIER, in a single transaction or multiple transactions over a 1 year time span, then the company is required to "undertake its best and all commercially-reasonable efforts to require the air carrier purchaser to offer employment to that number of pilots"....

Section 1.F.1 Page 8 & 9 of the AAI CBA

Now that's arguable from about 20 different points of view. I'm sure SWA would be happy to divest themselves of the pilots who WANT to work for DAL over SWA, especially seeing as they could replace those higher-longevity pilots for new-hires (lots of money saved and some happy SWA pilots who have fewer people plugged in the middle of the seniority list), but for that very same reason, DAL would probably prefer NOT to take those pilots.

In essence, no one knows what's going to happen and if/when/how the pilots would go with such a deal... if one even exists at this point.

 

[NuGuy]

Last word was that SWA offered DAL a pile of cash per airplane to take them off their hands, but then Airbus waltzed in a threw down "too good to not look at" deal.

The MEC has been briefed, but it's the company's call at this point. Presently, there are no scenarios that include any pilots coming with the airplanes, and if anyone is telling you that, they're just trying to get you to rise to troll bait.

Nu

 

[IslandDriver]

To be honest guys going to Delta might have a better time with upgrades and such. My luck though it would be the 200 below me, and none from above!

 

[scoreboardII]

Septic tank pumper? Man, you have to put up with a lot of ******************** in that job, just saying.

 

[On Your Six]

Just heard today: 12 717s to Delta in Jan 2013 with AT pilots...who knows whats really going on???

We are fat on pilots already. I don't see that happening. The CEO could have A319s too with no pilots. I doubt it.


Godspeed!


The OYSter

 

[fuzzy077]

This is getting ridiculous.

 

[ASADFW7]

This just in outerlimits has surpassed On Your Six in the race for most interacted with on the aviation forum, congratulations, I think.

 

[outerlimits]

This just in outerlimits has surpassed On Your Six in the race for most interacted with on the aviation forum, congratulations, I think.

Do I get a get a special coin ?

 

[outerlimits]

We are fat on pilots already. I don't see that happening. The CEO could have A319s too with no pilots. I doubt it.


Godspeed!


The OYSter

Could are less if your fat on pilots. You take planes, you take pilots. ( unless no Airtran pilot wants to go over to DAL)

ALPA will make sure of it.

All the growth with Delta, what does moving down several hundred numbers matter anyway ?

 

[filejw]

It is in the ALPA bylaws.

They are two ALPA carriers , the AT pilots go with the aircraft .

It will be nice to see the AirTran pilots that go to DAL get seat protection and ALPA senority .

The AT pilots deserve what General Lee and OY6 have been saying they deserve.

True but these A/C are not coming from SWA but Boeing Commercial Capital or whatever its called. This scenario has happened before with Eastern.

 

[Mikes Apartment]

Could are less if your fat on pilots. You take planes, you take pilots. ( unless no Airtran pilot wants to go over to DAL)

ALPA will make sure of it.

All the growth with Delta, what does moving down several hundred numbers matter anyway ?

You're naive. ALPA doesn't care. No Airtran pilot will come with any of the airplanes. Watch