Southwest Airlines pilot union activates its strike preparedness committee

[PCL_128]

I think you'd better prepare yourself to vote no, because full retro pay is a pipe dream.

 

[HowardBorden]

I think you'd better prepare yourself to vote no, because full retro pay is a pipe dream.

Very well prepared, one might even say "spring loaded." I won't incentivize bad behavior on managements part and I am by no means alone.

 

[kwick]

OK, so your fears were worse than ours. Doesn't change the fact that GK AND SWApA use fear to push GK's agenda.





IIRC, it was SWApA flying the "we lost $4m from TA1 to TA2, the next one will be worse, so vote YES!" flag



You're pathetic!

I hope you and your family never have to face the "fear factor," as you call
it.

You sound like the guy that said,"If you're gonna get raped, sit back and enjoy it"

 

[Tripower455]

OK, so your fears were worse than ours. Doesn't change the fact that GK AND SWApA use fear to push GK's agenda.











IIRC, it was SWApA flying the "we lost $4m from TA1 to TA2, the next one will be worse, so vote YES!" flag







You're pathetic!



I hope you and your family never have to face the "fear factor," as you call

it.



You sound like the guy that said,"If you're gonna get raped, sit back and enjoy it"

That's what you derived from my comment? No offense, but that's pathetic.


GK, with SWApA's complicity, uses fear to get what he wants. How did you infer that I said you or anyone else should enjoy it?

 

[dicko]

^^^^^^+1^^^^^^^^^^
But you'll have to add in 100% retro pay or I'll be in the HELL NO category without that as well.

Why do you think that your 1700 new friends care about your Retro ? Most of us will only see lunch money.

I'll vote yes to anything with no retro.

 

[SWA Bubba]

Why do you think that your 1700 new friends care about your Retro ? Most of us will only see lunch money.

I'll vote yes to anything with no retro.

I guess that's why they call you "Dicko."

Bubba

 

[HowardBorden]

Why do you think that your 1700 new friends care about your Retro ? Most of us will only see lunch money.

I'll vote yes to anything with no retro.

Well, if you want to throw away lunch money, that is certainly your prerogative.

Most of us like money and tend to bargain in a manner that puts more of it in our pocket. Of course my 1700 new friends have definitely blazed new trails in how to bargain in a way to receive less of it.

More power to ya!

 

[PCL_128]

Oh look, the infighting continues. Good job, SWAPA.

 

[redflyer65]

Oh look, the infighting continues. Good job, SWAPA.

It was more of a failure of your merger committee and what followed. What disaster. ALPA protecting it's members. Much like TWA.



Dicko,

Why didn't you guys bring over the best of your contract? I was really hoping for free parking.

 

[PCL_128]

It was more of a failure of your merger committee and what followed. What disaster. ALPA protecting it's members. Much like TWA.

Yes, our merger committee was a dismal failure, there's no doubt about that. But that has nothing to do with your continual infighting. That is all SWAPA's and Gary's doing. A fair process allowed to continue to its conclusion would have minimized such nonsense.

 

[SWA Bubba]

Yes, our merger committee was a dismal failure, there's no doubt about that. But that has nothing to do with your continual infighting. That is all SWAPA's and Gary's doing. A fair process allowed to continue to its conclusion would have minimized such nonsense.

Actually, the "continual infighting" exists only on anonymous boards, and then its usually precipitated by one of 5 or so specific, anonymous individuals, who bitch about anything Southwest-related. On the line, and in real life in general, you'l find none of this. None. Out there, it's just like any other airline: the state of negotiations, and what dumb things management has done lately.

BTW, I realize that your primary source of airline information IS from anonymous boards, so I understand how you can fail to see how utterly ludicrous your statement actually is.

Bubba

 

[redflyer65]

^^^^ This ^^^^

Absolutely nailed it Bubba.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

As I lurk,

One point to think about....Pilots have to let this roll off their backs until after leaving the cockpit. Easier said than done....for safety purposes.

Work Work Work Work Contract Work....has a track record in other airline negotiations as incidents tick upwards while guys were distracted by this talk.

Just a word to step back and not let it get toxic on the flight deck.

 

[Tripower455]

As I lurk,

One point to think about....Pilots have to let this roll off their backs until after leaving the cockpit. Easier said than done....for safety purposes.

Work Work Work Work Contract Work....has a track record in other airline negotiations as incidents tick upwards while guys were distracted by this talk.

Just a word to step back and not let it get toxic on the flight deck.

Read Bubba's response above.

He's 100% correct. I fly with FAT folks almost exclusively, and have for the last few years. The animosity spewed on these forums by the usual suspects definitely does not mirror real life.

 

[freightdogfred]

Read Bubba's response above.

He's 100% correct. I fly with FAT folks almost exclusively, and have for the last few years. The animosity spewed on these forums by the usual suspects definitely does not mirror real life.

Do you really think you're getting their true feelings on how it all went down?

 

[Kharma Police]

Read Bubba's response above.

He's 100% correct. I fly with FAT folks almost exclusively, and have for the last few years. The animosity spewed on these forums by the usual suspects definitely does not mirror real life.

I have been treated extremely well by the RSWs I have flown with. They have been extremely welcoming and glad we (Trannys') are on the same team. The information on this board is strictly entertainment not reality.

 

[Tripower455]

Do you really think you're getting their true feelings on how it all went down?

Does it matter? The point was that the vitriol spewed on the anonymous forums is in no way indicative of what goes on in the cockpits.

 

[redflyer65]

Do you really think you're getting their true feelings on how it all went down?

Maybe, maybe not. But most don't start down that road (talking about the SLI) because it's long over. No matter which side you're on, or how much hate and resentment you hold.

 

[freightdogfred]

Does it matter? The point was that the vitriol spewed on the anonymous forums is in no way indicative of what goes on in the cockpits.

Agreed. The reason being, 99% on both sides are professionals. I've only met 1 so far I'd prefer not to fly with. I suspect him to be a serial poster but I don't really care. So be it. But to be realistic, and as Dicko pointed out retro-pay won't really affect 1700 of us, so it's not a deal breaker. 1700 disaffected pilots plus a sizeable group of koolaid drinkers=51% easily. Let's vote and get it over with

 

[slaquer5]

Agreed. The reason being, 99% on both sides are professionals. I've only met 1 so far I'd prefer not to fly with. I suspect him to be a serial poster but I don't really care. So be it. But to be realistic, and as Dicko pointed out retro-pay won't really affect 1700 of us, so it's not a deal breaker. 1700 disaffected pilots plus a sizeable group of koolaid drinkers=51% easily. Let's vote and get it over with

I say ouch


GK. says 2 thumbs up.