Southern Hiring

[Atccfi]

So from reading and doing some research, I am trying to figure out how many southern has hired this fall...
August - ?
Sept 19th - 6
October 3rd- 25
Future classes
October 24th - ?
November 14th - ?

These are just the classes I've heard of or seen around. Seems like classes every 2-3 weeks. They said they wanted 400 total by the end of 2012, right? So basically about 100 to go. Anyone have some more info to chime in? Thanks!

 

[pfecwe]

So from reading and doing some research, I am trying to figure out how many southern has hired this fall...
August - ?
Sept 19th - 6
October 3rd- 25
Future classes
October 24th - ?
November 14th - ?

These are just the classes I've heard of or seen around. Seems like classes every 2-3 weeks. They said they wanted 400 total by the end of 2012, right? So basically about 100 to go. Anyone have some more info to chime in? Thanks!

Just so you know, the Nov. 21st class has been moved to Dec. 6th. No idea of the numbers. Glad to be there.

 

[Atccfi]

Just so you know, the Nov. 21st class has been moved to Dec. 6th. No idea of the numbers. Glad to be there.

Didn't know about the November 21 class. Probably makes sense with thanksgiving that week....

 

[maxfly1]

So from reading and doing some research, I am trying to figure out how many southern has hired this fall...
August - ?
Sept 19th - 6
October 3rd- 25
Future classes
October 24th - ?
November 14th - ?

These are just the classes I've heard of or seen around. Seems like classes every 2-3 weeks. They said they wanted 400 total by the end of 2012, right? So basically about 100 to go. Anyone have some more info to chime in? Thanks!

In September I was told that there gonna be two more classes of 16 on Classic by the end of the year. We are pretty short. At the same time they ran all recurrents early and there wont be any more trough the rest of the year. May be they cleared room for new hires.

 

[Atccfi]

Any one know how many were in the class that started today?

 

[$$$4nothin]

We had profit sharing, good work rules and an IBT 87% vote. Not bad for 1 year operating. How long has Southern been running again?

Moreover SX was not in direct competition with anyone as all of our routes were new and unique. Out market segment was people who would otherwise not fly. Southern however is in direct competition with Kalitta, Atlas, World and Evergreen.

I also made more money flying my 37 seat jet than any of your captains ever did flying an A-320. Skybus and Gojets are on the same page of the airline history books.

 

[HA25]

I also made more money flying my 37 seat jet than any of your captains ever did flying an A-320. Skybus and Gojets are on the same page of the airline history books.

I highly doubt it... we made industry average for 1st year CA... between 90 and 100K on a 90 hour credit... we hardly worked more than 75 to get that credit. Moreover, we were 4 on 4 off and home every night. Reserve guarantee was 60K/yr but nobody sat reserve the entire time the airline operated.

Add to this profit share (which granted never happened) made our pay, while low, worth the risk.

What kind of 37 seat jet did you fly and where, and AFTER HOW MANY YEARS seniority that you made 90-100K?

 

[swordfish]

I also made more money flying my 37 seat jet than any of your captains ever did flying an A-320. Skybus and Gojets are on the same page of the airline history books.

-----Sweet----- My pay check BIGGER then you're Game. Grow Up!

 

[fokkerjet]

December interviews cancelled, no word if/when they may restart.

 

[Atccfi]

December interviews cancelled, no word if/when they may restart.

Anyone know why the slow down in hiring? And the whole recent change in training class from the classic to the -400??

 

[swordfish]

Anyone know why the slow down in hiring? And the whole recent change in training class from the classic to the -400??

training department is back logged.

 

[pilotguy733]

Does anyone have any hotel suggestions/recommendations for the interview?

 

[On Your Six]

Anyone know why the slow down in hiring? And the whole recent change in training class from the classic to the -400??

Did they move guys to the -400 from the classic?

Godspeed!


OYS

 

[gringo]

Does anyone have any hotel suggestions/recommendations for the interview?

Homestead Suites Miami. It's where we stay for ground school, so you'll have an opportunity to meet some of the current crews. It's also a 15 minute walk to the sim center where the interviews are being held.

 

[KingAirKiddo]

Holiday Inn Express is also nice. Within walking distance of Pan Am and offer a $59 rate. Nice people and good van service.

 

[cape]

has anyone from the Oct 11 interviews recieved a class date.

 

[johnsonrod]

Any early word on where the 400s will be flying and for whom?

If you were hired and lucky enough to have a choice between two great types, what are the pros and cons of choosing either the 777 or the 400 as a newbie? I understand that the 400 is new to the fleet - does that mean less flying opportunity? Is there a benefit to choosing an existing fleet type (i.e., 777) with contracts?

For those pilots in training on the Classic who were given 744 and 777 slots, any word on how those slots were divided/chosen?

 

[skypine69]

400=upper deck 777=no upper deck. Should be an easy choice.

 

[FOB]

Slots were by class seniority, went from top to bottom until 8 peeps had bid off the -200.

 

[Atccfi]

Slots were by class seniority, went from top to bottom until 8 peeps had bid off the -200.

How did they determine seniority?? Birthdates, ssn??

 

[swordfish]

How did they determine seniority?? Birthdates, ssn??

Age!!

 

[swordfish]

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/11/01/4021629/southern-air-to-lease-two-additional.html

 

[gringo]

400=upper deck 777=no upper deck. Should be an easy choice.

400=marketable. 777=much more marketable.
400=Saudia and Ethiopian. 777=DHL and TNT.

And then of course there's the Classic-

200=Fast upgrade and DOD flying...

Suddenly not that easy a choice...

 

[On Your Six]

400=marketable. 777=much more marketable.
400=Saudia and Ethiopian. 777=DHL and TNT.

And then of course there's the Classic-

200=Fast upgrade and DOD flying...

Suddenly not that easy a choice...

The 200 also just got a gig with Centurion out of MIA.


Godspeed!


OYS

 

[tubineotter]

heck ya im looking forward to doing south america right, litton @ night baby yeah!

 

[gringo]

heck ya im looking forward to doing south america right, litton @ night baby yeah!

Whiner. Try doing it with a Carousel. The Litton 92 is perfectly capable of getting you down and back no problem. Been doing it for years and years.

The kids these days, I tell ya!

 

[Atccfi]

400=marketable. 777=much more marketable.
400=Saudia and Ethiopian. 777=DHL and TNT.

And then of course there's the Classic-

200=Fast upgrade and DOD flying...

Suddenly not that easy a choice...

does the equipment lock apply even to upgrades? so if you start on the 777, but can upgrade on the -200 before your lock is up, do you have to wait for it to expire? Does the company ever waive it?

 

[gringo]

does the equipment lock apply even to upgrades? so if you start on the 777, but can upgrade on the -200 before your lock is up, do you have to wait for it to expire? Does the company ever waive it?

Equipment lock will keep you in the airplane. The company has waived it in the past, but that seems to have been a one time deal. Future staffing needs might change that.

That being said, however, I wouldn't reccomend attempting a left seat upgrade into steam gauges after having flown glass... Individual results may vary, but I think you'll find it quite difficult. Most people do.

 

[tubineotter]

if i wanted easy id have joined the Gucci boys, i like steam and oil. huh-rah

 

[Richard]

The 400 will provide you the quickest Captain upgrade prospect, assuming you have the internal SA minimums to upgrade, and three Captain recommendations (required by upgrade). The 200 is eventually going away. The 777 is too senior for a newbie FO to upgrade quickly. Bottom line, go 400 if you think you have what it takes to be an quick upgrade Captain within two years.