Some Delta/NWA route swaps......

[767/757]

That is correct. All of the 757/767 bases will eventually be converted to both domestic and INTL in one category. ATL will be the last one, since it is the biggest.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Source?

 

[GogglesPisano]

Do you guys think an '07 hire will be able to hold NYC ER FO going forward?

I definitely see them shrinking that category as the A330's move in and the 767's go east.

But it's still JFK.:crying:

 

[Speedbird34]

Do you think you'll be able to hold it?

shut up

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Source?

I will PM you this info.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Do you guys think an '07 hire will be able to hold NYC ER FO going forward?

I definitely see them shrinking that category as the A330's move in and the 767's go east.

But it's still JFK.:crying:

That is the million dollar question. JFK is JFK, and it is by far the hardest base to commute to. I am sure that on some level there will be an ER base in NYC. I would even guess that some of the new hires will still hold it. Albeit, not holding weekends off and three days to TLV!

 

[clippyrip]

I start losing ground in 2016 and peak out at a 7% difference for the yrs 2020-2023 then slowly recover to be back at my stand alone % by 2028.

Wow, lucky you. I start off at 1% behind, bottom out out at 10% behind, to never fully recover with a finish at 2% behind. So much for relative seniority BS, Delta won.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Wow, lucky you. I start off at 1% behind, bottom out out at 10% behind, to never fully recover with a finish at 2% behind. So much for relative seniority BS, Delta won.

Yes, but all you can hold now is an engineer seat. When those aircraft retire shortly, you'll be able to upgrade to a window seat.
So looks like a win for you as an FNG!

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Well I think that everyone is for the most part behind. I am only behind about 1% my whole career. Some did not fair as well.
Remember that with this many jets, and this many pilots a few percentage points will not effect your overall expectations! Unless you want to be in a senior base.

 

[fishguy79]

GL,

It is finally good to hear y'all acknowledge our significant near term attrition. Too bad the arbitraitors did not. There are parts of our list that will never recover (86-89) hires. All in all my group (95) did ok. However, looking at my percentages I start losing ground in 2016 and peak out at a 7% difference for the yrs 2020-2023 then slowly recover to be back at my stand alone % by 2028. Now in fairness, I end up retiring within 2 #s of my original NWA prediction a few years later. Most FNW pilots will not ever be anywhere close to their stand alone percentages. Lets just hope for all of our sakes though this place is a survivor. :beer:

Are you defining near term as five years from now??? I just looked at the combined retirments and we will not see any signifcant movement until 2013 and then it is only in the 100's.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

The NWA guys are assuming age 60 retirements, which for now will at least be mostly correct.

After a couple years it will wane and trickle back to 65 as the frozen pensions get smaller. This is a fact they have a hard time admitting!