SkyWest - USA Today

[DontFeedTheBear]

we send as many people on to union airlines as anyone else.

Sky, read the post as it is written before you comment... I am talking in future tense. I have moved on from Skywest and want the best for a great pilot group. I was against ALPA when at Skywest, but now, I wouldn't go anywhere w/o representation. You don't know what you are missing until you have it, and reality sinks in. You need protection from possible legal or medical issues. You need protection from CP's like Fizer. Isn't it funny how he was removed at just enough time for the pilot group to forget. Skywest mngmt is NOT stupid. If there was no ALPA drive, he would still be in. They make it look like they take care of you, but in reality it is just another way of manipulating the pilot group. The sad thing is that you fall for it. I don't care about the lawsuits or money he may have lost for the company, he still works there in a higher position with more pay. It's all about the boys club of JB and BH. I think that as posted earlier, there is a lot of attention on this drive, and voting "NO" COULD VERY POSSIBLY HURT you. Do yourself, your fellow pilots and fellow industry pilots a favor and vote YES. You won't regret it, especially the day you will need it, and I guarantee, one day you will.

Just look at the DD case, do you think that would of happened at a union carrier? Don't think this was an isolated case? There are and were many more wrongful terminations at Skywest, just not as many had the funds or the amount of loss as DD. Remember, when you start at another carrier in this industry, you start at the bottom again. Low salary, benefits and seniority. This is a major reason for unionizing. It's not like a lot of industries where you take your talent, knowledge and experience to another company only to start at a higher salary and better offer.

Yogi

Yogi

 

[120% Torque]

I wonder how much of your dues they dropped on that ad concidering they can just email it to us at work. That ad is more of a feel good campain aimed at the current ALPA membership than at the Skywest pilots. Step back and realize how the game is played.

Scott

Scott, just curious do you have any plans of moving on to another airline?

 

[Exskydiverdrivr]

hello Skywest guys.....

ALPA and Prater do not give one crapola about you. They want your 2% so they can get back to throwing meetings in Miami at the Yatch Club on your dime.

I opened the paper today at the hotel and saw the ad, while reading the ALPA propaganda dribble all that was going thru my head was that they ALPA and scraping rock bottom - ALPA has never supported the little guy - read "commuter pilot" even if you fly a large jet at your commuter airline.

in short - don't fall for it.

Ok lear I'll bite. If that;s the case why did the other union guys sign the letter? Wouldn't they want our money instead?

 

[atrdriver]

hello Skywest guys.....

ALPA and Prater do not give one crapola about you. They want your 2% so they can get back to throwing meetings in Miami at the Yatch Club on your dime.

I opened the paper today at the hotel and saw the ad, while reading the ALPA propaganda dribble all that was going thru my head was that they ALPA and scraping rock bottom - ALPA has never supported the little guy - read "commuter pilot" even if you fly a large jet at your commuter airline.

in short - don't fall for it.

You must really be dense. ALPA spends much more on regional airlines than it gets from them in dues. They want Skywest pilots to join so they can have legal representation that is good for them, not good for the company. Whether they vote in ALPA, teamsters, or the International Organization of Purple Haired Manicurists, they need to have someone representing THEM, not the company they work for.

 

[doug_or]

...same drivel as all the piedmont threads...

Your MEC and your [formerly] fellow pilots screwed you over, not ALPA's attitude toward "commuters". Enjoy AAA.

 

[Mickey]

All ALPA wants is your money. They will NOT do anything to help you. Look at how well the other Airline Pilots they represent are doing. Most SkyWest pilots would have to take some serious pay cuts to go to any so called Major Airlines that ALPA represents. It would take 5-10 years for a SkyWest pilot to break even if they went to any other ALPA airline.

PS. Look how they screwed up with Trans States vs. GoJets. They refused to spend money to fight for Trans States Pilots. Period!

 

[Gr82Aviate]

All ALPA wants is your money. They will NOT do anything to help you. Look at how well the other Airline Pilots they represent are doing. Most SkyWest pilots would have to take some serious pay cuts to go to any so called Major Airlines that ALPA represents. It would take 5-10 years for a SkyWest pilot to break even if they went to any other ALPA airline.

PS. Look how they screwed up with Trans States vs. GoJets. They refused to spend money to fight for Trans States Pilots. Period!

Thanx for the warning...I gotta call Fedex first thing in the morning and cancel my class date(don't want to wait 10 years to break even)!

 

[XPOO]

Aren't both United and US Airways looking to vote ALPA out? Oh but I'm sure they have no problem sponsoring that letter to the SkyWest pilots though.

 

[WSurf]

I agree that ALPA is not the best union for the regionals! The fact that it is a politcal machine means back stabbing, lying, cheating etc. and thats what I dont like.

However the better stuff of ALPA.... Contracts, Medical Protecion, Training..... Is nice to have and worth the money.

1 million dollars of life insurance for 400.00 month..
Lose of License Bennies.. cheap.. and nice

I have had my riff with ALPA being a PDT pilot, but overall I would say vote it in..
I'd woundn't not wanna have it.

Good Luck

 

[BoilerUP]

I have had my riff with ALPA being a PDT pilot

No flame, honest question that is pertinent to this discussion:

As a PDT pilot, what is your "riff" with ALPA? Is it more with National, or AAA?

 

[BoilerUP]

Aren't both United and US Airways looking to vote ALPA out?

Some US Airways pilots are pissed that ALPA National didn't acquiesce to East demands by "forcing" a seniority integration with AWA that was more fair to them...after it being decided by a NEUTRAL ARBITRATOR after East union leadership wouldn't compromise on DOH.

For ALPA National to have done that would have not only been in violation of ALPA bylaws, it would have set them up for *huge* liability in a DFR lawsuit that surely would have been filed by West pilots.

To use the East/USAPA situation as an example of ALPA's failures is a weak stretch at very best.

 

[XPOO]

I asked a yes or no question. I didn't ask why. But thanks for your opinion on the matter.

 

[BoilerUP]

I asked a yes or no question. I didn't ask why. But thanks for your opinion on the matter.

Knowing "why" is far more important than "yes" or "no"...

And you're welcome.

 

[XPOO]

So, care to explain United reasoning then? Or is it just beneficial to know why US Airways is doing so? I guess you're only a half the story kind of guy then.

 

[BoilerUP]

So, care to explain United reasoning then? Or is it just beneficial to know why US Airways is doing so? I guess you're only a half the story kind of guy then.

I don't know anything about United's situation and therefore it wouldn't be proper for me to comment on things I am unaware of. I *do* know what's going on at Airways though, considering I fly that system, talk to their pilots, and even listened to one of their union leaders talk in DCA a few weeks back.

In the spirit of full disclosure and spirited yet civil discourse, there is also a faction at American Eagle that wants to get rid of ALPA too; you can find their info at http://www.aepa.org/

Why don't you as a dispatcher like ALPA again?