Skywest and ASA

[Willy21]

Hold it tight there! Willy21 are you serious? If in the end SKYW pilots make more or the QOL (per Bluto's CPM) is better, what has your union been doing for you? (There is absolutely no Sarcasm Intended in this post!)quote]

We have a legal document that can be grieved if not followed. (grievances are another long thread) Some other things ALPA has is a legal department to keep you job if the company wants to fire you and doctors to help you get you back on the line if somethings happens to you physically. ALPA is more than just a way to get a contract.

 

[atlcrashpad]

ALPA, more to it than a contract

I have to agree with Willy21. ALPA helped me with a medical issue. I had a devestating injury during OIF. After surgery and rehab, ALPA helped me step by step with my FAA class 1. I really never took advantage of ALPA services until then.

 

[Bluto]

XJET ALPA helped me out quite a bit when I got furloughed. It's like insurance, you need it for the things you don't expect.

 

[Willy21]

I like the way Bluto put it, Alpa is an insurance policy. It might not be the best out there, but right now it is all we at ASA have.

 

[Texx]

ASA has nothing like that in our contract at this time. Skywest might not have the 70 seat rate that ASA does, but I think I would take you work rules over ours anyday. In the end I think you would see that a Skywest pilot makes more than an ASA pilot.

Go ahead and take the work rules. I bet the guys below you would like to move up one number. And by the way their work rules, as good as they may be, can change at any time.

 

[CFIT]

I'm just waiting for ALPA to get to Skywest.

Then everything will just be perfect.......

Right?

 

[IFlyFL410]

ALPA is definately like an insurance policy. I have several policies that I pay a monthly premium for that would take care of me for a bit if something were to happen. Not to mention, who at SKW is going to standup for you when ATC or the Feds are trying to violate you for something??? I know our Mgt. would never go the extra mile like an ALPA Rep. would do. Just some food for thought.

FORMER DFW CR7 FO

 

[Tomct]

Amen to that FL410! Some of the Kool-Aid drinkers at Skywest better wake up and realize that this is a pretty important time to get some representation. Without it, you will do whatever your mgmnt tells you! Not a good position to be in, in this day and age!

 

[IFlyFL410]

Let the Whippsawing begin!!! (at least between us and SKW now and not COM!)

 

[Halo_RJdriver]

Merge the lists?

Let the Whippsawing begin!!! (at least between us and SKW now and not COM!)

You think if we at skyW can unionize and then merge seniorty with ASA we can avoid some Whipper wank sawing???

 

[Rogue5]

Affirmative...

 

[Crash Pad]

I got to hand it to the Union types. The ASA Union rarely wins a grievance, has not won a contract, and I'm sure very rarely gets someone there job back or bails them out of a violation. I enjoy the argument though and since you all pay good money to hear how much better it is with a union...
I am now paging all the disgruntled Skywest pilots!

Please pile on and tell us about your contract being changed daily.

Tell me about all the F/O's and Captains that have been fired out of hand.

Tell us about the guy who was at the company for a week and upgraded because he was friends with somebody high in the chain.

List all the guys who have been violated... Especially tell the stories about the guys who have been violated who could have been saved had they only had proper representation.

Spout off about your current contract. Tell every ASA pilot out there why they should pay 1% a month or else end up like you.

Finally, don't forget to tell ASA what it is like working for Skywest. The horrible everything. Tell us how you all sit around a b!tch about your current contract. Tell us how you all sit around a b!tch about scheduling... Stories about a family vacation in Jamaica that was ruined by a phone call from scheduling and a junior man the next day are good here.

ASA can get a 1% raise if they dump ALPA. Most of the pilots (50 seat crews) would get a raise. The work rules would improve. So I want to hear from every disgruntled Skywest pilot out there. Please show the ASA pilot group why it is better with a Union.

 

[Plug]

I got to hand it to the Union types. The ASA Union rarely wins a grievance, has not won a contract, and I'm sure very rarely gets someone there job back or bails them out of a violation. I enjoy the argument though and since you all pay good money to hear how much better it is with a union...
I am now paging all the disgruntled Skywest pilots!

Wow, you are truely out of touch with what is going on at ASA. Unless you are on probation ASA can't even fire someone properly, there are a few CR7 CA's in both domiciles you can look to as proof of this.

We haven't won a grievance? I would disagree with that. Duty in to departure time is one. It doesn't help when Bill Hiers comes in and shreds the contract and has folks like ND sell the pilot group out. I really can't wait for CS to come back to the line!

Keep on spreading lies, you just make yourself look like a moron!

 

[Puck Mugger]

CrashPad is probably some mgt puke who is bored at the GO. It makes for a long day when you are an incompetent management flunkie who can't pass the time looking at kiddie porn on the Delta intranet.

 

[Crash Pad]

Come on I said disgruntled Skywest pilots. Not disgruntled ASA... We all know you are disgruntled at ASA...