Skywest Alpa. It's not just about the contract

[Steveair]

John, as you indicate in the other forum, you have no idea what is going on.

Please tell us why he's not fired John.

 

[John Pennekamp]

John, as you indicate in the other forum, you have no idea what is going on.

Please tell us why he's not fired John.

That's not at all germane to this debate. And I have no personal knowledge of the situation, but from what I gather here, he got fired for mouthing off to a chief pilot.

Regardless of your personal opinions of the case, HELLONEWMAN, a federal judge ruled that Skywest was wrong. I think he out ranks you there, HELLONEWMAN.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

John, as you indicate in the other forum, you have no idea what is going on.

Please tell us why he's not fired John.

Talk about someone who "has no idea of what is going on"...ever look in the mirror?

 

[Morning Wood]

You know...I'm fairly level headed about my posts. But...you're an idiot. Read about Don D on the other thread and tell me why TF is still employed at SkyWest. The judge ruled that TF was "out to get" Don. Ask the MKE chief pilot why they offered TF the CP position in SLC again.

You can't be serious? So why did they offer him the SLC CP position again?

 

[SkyNation]

You can't be serious? So why did they offer him the SLC CP position again?

indeed, do tell.

I've heard the only reason he's still here is he's good buds w/BH.

 

[yellowfever]

Tf

You can't be serious? So why did they offer him the SLC CP position again?

I have no idea why they would do this. The MKE chief told me they offered it to him.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Back to the original topic, don't forget that union dues are 100% TAX DEDUCTIBLE.

 

[Future Furlough]

Not talking about SAPA at all. SAPA is a joke. I'm talking about QOL and all that goes with it. Are you really that miserable that you want to change things?

I don't get it. What makes you think things will change if the union gets voted in? The status quo reigns until you *negotiate* changes.

It cracks me up that people won't part with 2% now but will give their left testicle/ovary to go to a major airline that is a union shop. Hypocrits.

 

[Skywest Pylot]

Steveair,

You say OC members are the only ones who are pro-union? What about me? I'm not on the OC but I do give a sh!t about my pilot group and industry. You got a problem with that?

 

[Eric]

And what do you think will happen when a contract is ratified. Good bye performance rewards. Adios good QOL. If anyone can beat 100 credit hrs and 15 days off a month, please tell me how. I don't want to mess with a good thing just so I can get job protection that I don't need and don't want.

What ALPA carrier has good work rules? Friends at United, Midwest, Virgin America, and Frontier don't.

Well Steveair, I have no idea what you are talking about referring to QOL. I have yet to see 15 days off, and I'm forced to work almost 100 hours. You must be a captain. So........I guess my vote will cancel out yours.

 

[120% Torque]

I see no need for ALPA and I can put my money to far better use. There ONLY advantage to ALPA, to which people seem to agree with, is job security. SkyWest is NOT out to get it's employees. I'm not sure how things are over at ASA for you, but that doesn't happen here. Furthermore, there is a HUGE pilots shortage that is just starting and is only going to get worse. Use you're self-proclaimed intellect to figure the rest out.

You can put your money to far better use? First off, not sure if you heard this from the hundred or so other guys who have stated it here but your dues are TAX DEDUCTABLE....If you itemize (and if you arent itemizing as a pilot you are a fool) you get the money back and can still "put your money to far better use."

If what happend to DD happened to you would you still share the sentiment that skywest is not out to get you? If you think there is anything ok with what happened to DD or that this is one isoloted case, you are high. This made its way into the public domain because DD had the wherewithall to fight it for two years and prevail. Most other similar cases get shot around the rumour mill but all the facts dont come out...the fired pilot is sent on his way and just tries to put the pieces of his life back together. News flash for you, pilots have been treated unfairly and fired at Skywest. I know you dont want to think that Uncle Jerry, the family man could run such a corrupt company but you hope in vain.

People of intelligence, buy car insurance, house insurance and job insurance. To keep an organization thats track record is not only spotty but downright corrupt rather than get Alpa that at least has some checks and balances and accountability would be missguided at best and downright stupid at worst. Btw you get what your representatives bargain for. Sapa is ZERO for about a hundred recently. A smart man would understand you get what you bargain for. A smart man would understand a well chosen MEC, under that Alpa umbrella has a much better chance of bargaining for and winning some quality of life/compensation battles. It took ASA two years to make significant gains on its contract which is now superior to that of the skywest pilots who waited four years for 0%,1% and a Brad Holt override that doesnt apply in umpteen different situations. Sapa is not sophisticated or powerful enough to do anything even before accounting for the fact a majority of them already sold their souls to the company in exchange for personal rewards.

Skywest is the highest netting regional in the industry. Its pilots are not at the top in work rules or pay when you look at all regionals. They are moving closer and closer to the bottom. Buy a clue and look at the facts instead of playing your anti alpa broken record woes.