Skywest Alpa. It's not just about the contract

[BoilerUP]

Management at SkyWest is against unions (incase you haven't heard), and will eliminate incentives to it's pilots should they opt for a union. SkyWest will become industry average or less. Jerry doesn't care - he's made his millions.

FEAR is a mighty powerful tool of persuasion...

 

[SSDD]

Steveair is management scare tactics at its best. He's been scared into thinking that he'll lose everything and will have to start over at minimun wage.

 

[EBE]

2 % of my salary is 1560. My perforance rewards are 2400-4000 per year. You're right! I could lose over 5500!

READ the WHOLE post next time. "2% and NO PERFORMANCE REWARDS..."

Tax deductable Union dues?? That seals the deal. 2500 more hours and you make 15K less than me. Ouch.

I'd rather drink the SkyWest cool aid than smoke the ALPA crack! (which they make you pay for!)

Yah those performance rewards are pretty awesome and so is the fact that better than 20% of the pilot group doesn't get them. Maybe they'll go away like whatever else our management decides to do away with when and how they please.

You say you could lose $5500.00. You could lose a hell of a lot more than that without representation.

Do you smoke crack while sipping the kool-aid? Sounds like it.

 

[GeekMaster]

You can be as happy as pilots at other regionals with ALPA! Ohh wait... that doesn't add up.

Crappier work rules, good bye to 2% of my check, and no more performance rewards. Sounds great! Total loss of over $5000 a year. Sign me up!

The 1 and ONLY benefit to ALPA is job protection. Keep your head below the radar and no one gets fired.

Those who always stay below the radar will eventually fly into mountains.

 

[SkyNation]

FEAR is a mighty powerful tool of persuasion...

a tool used by management as well as the ALPA OC here

 

[BoilerUP]

a tool used by management as well as the ALPA OC here

Very true...and that's why it is so important folks look past the PROPAGANDA and FEAR used by both sides and objectively decide if representation would be beneficial to them, their careers, and their pilot group.

Not voting for ALPA because you're afraid management will "take" things away in retribution for voting in representation is ill-informed.

 

[scarlet]

Like the comair pilots that thought they were to good and Nothing could happen to them. Sorry for bringing it up, but I bet the f.o. is glad he has ALPA, to fend off personal lawsuits, and the captains family too.!

Thanks ALPA great insurance !

 

[ohplease!]

Like the comair pilots that thought they were to good and Nothing could happen to them. Sorry for bringing it up, but I bet the f.o. is glad he has ALPA, to fend off personal lawsuits, and the captains family too.!

Thanks ALPA great insurance !

yeah, from the ambulance chasers like John Edwards?

did you fall and hit your head today or something?:laugh:

 

[atrdriver]

The 1 and ONLY benefit to ALPA is job protection. Keep your head below the radar and no one gets fired.

You keep thinking that when something happens in flight that is completely out of your control and you get fired for something on the CVR. Something totally unrelated to the incident, but the your company didn't like. It happens more than you think, and with a union you have protection against it. Without a union, you are on your own.

And the aeromedical department is invaluable, especially as you get older. Countless pilots have gotten their medicals back using them, where without them they wouldn't have had the resources. But you know it all, so just keep your head in the sand.

 

[Jmoney]

Don't worry....

It's worth as much as ALPA giving COMAIR money. ASA is being slowly dismantled.

Management at SkyWest is against unions (incase you haven't heard), and will eliminate incentives to it's pilots should they opt for a union. SkyWest will become industry average or less. Jerry doesn't care - he's made his millions.

Don't worry, fate just has a way of biting self-serving a-holes like this......

Here I will be with a big cheese-eatin grin. This toolbasket doesn't need anyone else's help, until he really needs some help..... He and skynation don't care until they are forced to care. Just wait until he's the one they are trying to fire....

-It will be very choice...

 

[scarlet]

Oh Please-you would have called the best attorney too if it were someone you cared about...if there is anyone !

 

[ohplease!]

Oh Please-you would have called the best attorney too if it were someone you cared about...if there is anyone !

thats mean....b!tch!

 

[Redan]

Oh Please-you would have called the best attorney too if it were someone you cared about...if there is anyone !

Now isn't that a bit much there Captain Scarlett?

 

[Steveair]

It would be illegal for Skywest to eliminate the performance bonus plan. If a Union were voted in they are required to maintain a "status quo" until a contract is ratified. A little knowledge goes a long way.

And what do you think will happen when a contract is ratified. Good bye performance rewards. Adios good QOL. If anyone can beat 100 credit hrs and 15 days off a month, please tell me how. I don't want to mess with a good thing just so I can get job protection that I don't need and don't want.

What ALPA carrier has good work rules? Friends at United, Midwest, Virgin America, and Frontier don't.

 

[John Pennekamp]

And what do you think will happen when a contract is ratified. Good bye performance rewards. Adios good QOL. If anyone can beat 100 credit hrs and 15 days off a month, please tell me how. I don't want to mess with a good thing just so I can get job protection that I don't need and don't want.

What ALPA carrier has good work rules? Friends at United, Midwest, Virgin America, and Frontier don't.

Steve, that's ridiculous. We who are actually union don't lose everything when the contract is signed.

We have guaranteed QOL and performance rewards for everyone, not just those like you who get rewarded for licking your manager's boots at the expense of your fellow pilots.

You're just mad because a union will even the playing field so that everyone can get the special favors you at the other teachers pets get.

 

[BoilerUP]

I don't want to mess with a good thing just so I can get job protection that I don't need and don't want.

He said it all right there, folks.

 

[John Pennekamp]

What ALPA carrier has good work rules? Friends at United, Midwest, Virgin America, and Frontier don't.

Have you ever heard of 9/11? Have you ever heard of bankruptcy?

Yes, ALPA has taken a beating in the last 7 years, but it wasn't always that way. Take a look at UAL's or DAL's year 2000 contracts if you don't believe me.

Don't blame ALPA, blame the economy, the government, and the terrorists. Oh, also blame the traveling public who have decided in the last few years that they want first class treatment for Greyhound fares.

And, btw, Virgin is non union and Frontier has an in-house union. Try educating yourself before spewing garbage.

 

[AugerPtrol]

Have you ever heard of 9/11? Have you ever heard of bankruptcy?

Yes, ALPA has taken a beating in the last 7 years, but it wasn't always that way. Take a look at UAL's or DAL's year 2000 contracts if you don't believe me.

Don't blame ALPA, blame the economy, the government, and the terrorists. Oh, also blame the traveling public who have decided in the last few years that they want first class treatment for Greyhound fares.

And, btw, Virgin is non union and Frontier has an in-house union. Try educating yourself before spewing garbage.

You making the point for everyone at Skywest who does not want ALPA. All ALPA supporters at Skywest argue that QOL has gone down the past 5 or 6 years. You state the reasons for that clearly above. This is the last company that needs ALPA! As for all the ASA people that get on here begging for us to vote in ALPA... Stop. Thinking that if Skywest votes in ALPA will end your misery at your ALPA run Regional is nonsense. Even if they merge the list it will not happen any time soon. Also, if the merger happens ALPA will end up screwing you guys and sticking you all on the bottom.

 

[BoilerUP]

Also, if the merger happens ALPA will end up screwing you guys and sticking you all on the bottom.

Another ill-informed, anti-ALPA statement.

Keep in mind that all concessionary agreements at ALPA carriers have been voted for and ratified by each pilot group; those provisions were negotiated, instead of having things given or taken away at the sole discretion of the company.

To argue that ALPA "failed" these groups or that they would have done better without ALPA representing them during concessionary bargaining, especially during the bankruptcy process, is foolishly naive.

 

[IADBLRJ41]

when does this vote take place?