Scab Stories

[Some Dude]

What's your best "I had to fly with a scab" story? We have a few at my employer. They have a thousand excuses for their actions (none are good).

 

[buttercup]

What's your best "I had to fly with a scab" story? We have a few at my employer. They have a thousand excuses for their actions (none are good).

Ive never knowingly flown with a, scab!! When I was an FO at Comair though, a guy came up to the cockpit looking for a jumpseat..This was about a month before we went on strike.. He introduced himself to the Captain and myself.. THe Captain looked at the guys ID, checked his scab list and then presto the guy was on it.. The Captain said " Get off my plane you greedy scab bastard".. The scab then got all emotional and threatened to tell his company (Continental)!! It's sad that a scab like that could hold a high seniority number in one of the better Major airlines out there!

 

[billjohnson321]

i flew with a few scabs at my old airline.the ones that i flew with were actually excellent pilots and great guys.still talk to a few of them.i was not there when the situations happened so i try to restrain judgement.sorry i don't have any of those "get the hel off my airplane stories." i've always thought they were real impressive.

 

[aeronautic1]

Comair pilots with scab lists... geez!!

Ive never knowingly flown with a, scab!! When I was an FO at Comair though, a guy came up to the cockpit looking for a jumpseat..This was about a month before we went on strike.. He introduced himself to the Captain and myself.. THe Captain looked at the guys ID, checked his scab list and then presto the guy was on it.. The Captain said " Get off my plane you greedy scab bastard".. The scab then got all emotional and threatened to tell his company (Continental)!! It's sad that a scab like that could hold a high seniority number in one of the better Major airlines out there!

 

[OleGuy]

With ALPA's track record there is no longer a long term career problem with being a scab. Like it or not...It's the truth. Look at all the money we spent on Continential and strike assessments, and then look at all the money we spent to get them BACK after they were successfull. ALPA is interested in just one thing...dues. How many Eastern scabs are employed today at major airlines...lots.

 

[aeronautic1]

Dues

Now that's the smartest thing that I have yet. ALPA's only exsistance is based on the dues paid for in part by company payroll. Small carrier, small dues, little representation, if they will represent you at all.

With ALPA's track record there is no longer a long term career problem with being a scab. Like it or not...It's the truth. Look at all the money we spent on Continential and strike assessments, and then look at all the money we spent to get them BACK after they were successfull. ALPA is interested in just one thing...dues. How many Eastern scabs are employed today at major airlines...lots.

 

[SDCFI]

Seems to me scabbing and PFT are pretty similar in that everyone talks about "blacklists" and how it'll hurt your career, yada...yada...yada, no one will like you, etc. But in the end these people still get the jobs so where's the deterrent not to do it? A denied j/s may send a message, but in the end isn't much more than a slight inconvenience for most.

 

[flybrowntails]

i get it--this is a thread about "i knew this guy/gal who was a scab but he was a great pilot, great person, community leader an overall a-okay joe."

okay- i knew this guy at a former company he was a scab. he was a horrible pilot, he was a mildly functioning major alcoholic and those that knew him are worse off for having ever met this turd.

the only thing good i can say about this guy is he provided me with some great stories for interviews.

wish i had other stories to share.

fbt

 

[rumpletumbler]

i get it--this is a thread about "i knew this guy/gal who was a scab but he was a great pilot, great person, community leader an overall a-okay joe."

lol...nahhh I think the op intended it to be a bash the hell out of scabs thread. However, the worst folks I've met aren't scabs but horrible instructors. I grow a touch weary of people hating people because they want to work. Hating someone because they are a true bug on the windshield of life I'm all for however.

 

[Yank McCobb]

What this thread truly is about is that you can take a cross-section of society...any part of it, including aviation and even that part of aviation known as "scabs"...and find the same results. Good people, bad people, competent people, incompetent people, those with drug and alcohol problems, those without, etc. And you can also find people willing to hurl stones at any part of it and blame all of their problems on someone else.

 

[Flyingdutchman]

No sure about continental folks (way before my time). But I wont take any *************************s pilots on my js. bite me.

FD

 

[Flyingdutchman]

******** = g 0 j e t s

 

[Tram]

How many Eastern scabs are employed today at major airlines...lots.

They may be employed, but man, how fun would it be to go to work and be known as a worthless sack of trash?

I know several guys who are Eastern scabs - they don't have alot of friends in the "industry." They may be the hometown local hero to people who don't know the difference between a scab and not, but everyone you work with still knows..

I won't ever go out of my way to help a scab..

I think it's funny.. they all have "real" good excuses..

The local eastern scab, "had a family, he was trying to put his kids through private school, had a car payment" yadda yadda yadda..

My dad - had a family, was tryinig to put his kids through private school, etc.. My dad didn't cross the line..

I was a young kid when Eastern happened, but I have learned alot from the people who were involved..

Scabs are worthless....

 

[h25b]

What this thread truly is about is that you can take a cross-section of society...any part of it, including aviation and even that part of aviation known as "scabs"...and find the same results. Good people, bad people, competent people, incompetent people, those with drug and alcohol problems, those without, etc. And you can also find people willing to hurl stones at any part of it and blame all of their problems on someone else.

I think I know what this thread is all about... Some Dude I believe is a NetJets pilot that is constantly verbally thumping his chest with all of the pro-union, we're ready to strike verbage. SCAB's are what they are, people who had priorities different from the mainstream at the time and for whatever reason felt like a paycheck was too important to them not go marching around in circles. How people decide to treat them after the fact is their own business. I think history has proven that it really has little impact on their overall aviation career if in fact they are good pilots.

My dad - had a family, was tryinig to put his kids through private school, etc.. My dad didn't cross the line..

I was a young kid when Eastern happened, but I have learned alot from the people who were involved..

Scabs are worthless....

With all due respect (and yes, I do respect the sacrifice your father made), Eastern is longer here today and the industry is still in shambles...

 

[FoxHunter]

The local eastern scab, "had a family, he was trying to put his kids through private school, had a car payment" yadda yadda yadda..

My dad - had a family, was tryinig to put his kids through private school, etc.. My dad didn't cross the line..

I was a young kid when Eastern happened, but I have learned alot from the people who were involved..

Scabs are worthless....

In the early 60s EAL had another strike. The FEIA represented PFEs at the time ALPA claimed that all jet aircraft should have three pilots, for safety. Reality was that it was a jobs issue. FEIA went out on strike and ALPA broke the strike. The EAL CEO, Captain Eddie, issued an ultimatum, come back to work or you will never return. The PFEs that crossed the FEIA picket line were put on the pilot seniority list and had their pilot training paid for by the company, and most retired as EAL Captains. The FEs that honored the strike were locked out. Some of the lucky FEs were hired by Seaboard World Airlines, later bought by Tigers, bought by FedEx. Most of the others bounced around the nonskeds such as Universal, Saturn, TIA, Capitol and others. The last former striker EAL FE retired as a DC10 S/O at FedEx around 5 years ago.

Were the FEs that crossed the FEIA picket line Scabs? Were the EAL pilots that crossed the FEIA picket line Scabs? Were the pilots hired to replace the PFEs Scabs? Where does your dad fit into this?