Rumor SkyWest Inc. receives new jet financing?

[russtgol]

And in BK by 2015.

Naw..Express Jet will bring them feed.

 

[Nevets]

Comprehension fail. "Surely" - in agreement to your correct post. Everything else was a bunch of questions open for you or anyone to answer.

All my posts are correct! So which one are you surely in agreement with? That we want AA/Eagle to keep that flying? Because that was my only point.

 

[Nevets]

Never said I was better than anyone else, just said for me, I am happy where I am...
IMO... More money (way down the road by the way) & bigger airplanes do not equal happiness. If you can't be happy with what you have and where you are, changing airlines is not going to suddenly make you happy.... It a personal problem. For ME, I would like to stay where I am, & see my company grow & prosper. FYI most of the people @ the top of some of the most desirable places got hired then when it was NOT the most desirable place to be.... Think about it.

No you didn't say those words but it certainly sounded to me like that is what you were saying. When you start off by saying how you don't know why so many people think that life is going to be soooo much better at a major as if that is never a possibility. Then you preemptively make an argument about why more pay is not worth it because we need to trust you in that we will spend that additional income and be functionally in a similar place we are now as if no one ever makes a better life for themselves with a little more income. Then you make the case for staying at a regional by saying that once you make captain and have a good schedule, the case for making the move to a major becomes a little less clear, which may be true yet you discount those place like comair, eagle, horizon, etc which takes a long time to get a good captain's schedule. Then you go back to bashing going to a major by assuming that everyone will commute, fly older-less automated aircraft (as if that's a big issue), less pay, worse schedule, horrible job security (think SWA for the last three items), and having to fly with some dooshbag captain (as if there aren't any at your airline or flight deck). Then you bash self righteous pilots for wanting mainline to scope in more flying after your hopes and wishes that Skywest grows and prospers by mainline pilots giving flying up so that you can fly your larger codeshare aircraft.

Sounds to me like classic justification for your decisions and a tacit solicitation of approval while trying to bring others down for having a different life situation and therefore different career decisions. So let me be the first to say, I commend you for making decisions that put your family before more money or some self induced sense of gratification from flying big airplanes for 16 hours at a time over some ocean. I've done the same. My only issue is your pompous, arrogant, self righteous, convenient assumption filled, diatribe on how so many people are wrong for going to a major as opposed to your clairvoyant decision to stay at Skywest. We all have different wants and needs. Yours are not better than anyone else's.

 

[ASADriver]

Nevets, please tell me you are planning to move on to the majors.

 

[GogglesPisano]

There's rationalisation in adundance here.

Is a job at a major what it used to be, absolutely not. But having spent 6 years at ACA/FlyI (and watching that bright idea crash and burn) and 2 years at a nonsched I am at Delta. I can tell you with all sincerity the QOL at work is night and day here compared to my two previous employers. The worst day at Delta makes the best days at ACA/World feel like a colonoscopy by a gastro who forgot the anesthesia.

Go ahead. Pick your reasons for deciding to hang your hat at a regional. But don't be surprised if some of us here, who've been there and done that, find them to be a bit more "excuse" than rational decision-making.

 

[aviator202]

Yes.....RJ 50 seaters as well as the 700/900 are being hurt by high jet fuel prices....

But I wonder.....what happens to this market segment if all these airplanes are retrofitted with appropriate versions of the P & W GTF engine?

Now......there's a true game changer.....

Because.....it is coming.....

 

[Mercyful Fate]

Yes.....RJ 50 seaters as well as the 700/900 are being hurt by high jet fuel prices....

But I wonder.....what happens to this market segment if all these airplanes are retrofitted with appropriate versions of the P & W GTF engine?

Now......there's a true game changer.....

Because.....it is coming.....

Honestly, I don't think the 50 seat RJ's are hurting as much as some want us to believe....

 

[badog]

Yeah 50 seaters are not profitable....err...um then why is cal/united pulling emb 135's out of the desert and flying them around?

 

[777forever]

Yeah 50 seaters are not profitable....err...um then why is cal/united pulling emb 135's out of the desert and flying them around?

Because they are even less profitable sitting in the desert waiting for lease to expire

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[Varmint]

There's rationalisation in adundance here.

Is a job at a major what it used to be, absolutely not. But having spent 6 years at ACA/FlyI (and watching that bright idea crash and burn) and 2 years at a nonsched I am at Delta. I can tell you with all sincerity the QOL at work is night and day here compared to my two previous employers. The worst day at Delta makes the best days at ACA/World feel like a colonoscopy by a gastro who forgot the anesthesia.

Go ahead. Pick your reasons for deciding to hang your hat at a regional. But don't be surprised if some of us here, who've been there and done that, find them to be a bit more "excuse" than rational decision-making.

Nice post....the absolute truth.

 

[IBNAV8R]

She started it. Uh uh, HE did. Did not. Did so. Did not. Did so. Poopy head. Doo doo breath, Fart face. MOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMYYYYY!!! This is why I rarely read beyond page 2.

Some are hoping that fuel goes through the roof - putting thousands of "lesser" pilots either out of work or below them on their seniority list. A "lesser" pilot being anyone who didn't follow someone else's (or Kit Darby's) clouded view of the ideal pilot career track.

Explain that ideal progression to all my buddies that jumped for the brass ring and are still on furlough or back at my lowly airline - on the bottom of the list for at least the third time. Ironically, several of those people chose to stay put when given their recall notice. How's THAT for ideal career progression? How about the ones that went to longstanding legacy carriers only to get royally f'd by their fellow pilots during a merger.

Let's face it, luck of the draw, timing, economics, a bunch of MBAs you've never met, and even your brother pilots, have a lot more to do with your career success than your superb abilities.

Cost of fuel may alter the economics slightly. But, even if fuel hits $100 a gallon, a half-full 100-seater will NEVER be more efficient than a full 50-seater.

Good on you if you're at a major raking in the big bucks - if that is how you measure success. Of course, NOBODY's really raking in big bucks any more. With age, I'm figuring out what's important. It's spending holidays and weekends with my family along with the occasional band/choir concert, soccer games, volunteering, and just plain being there. Somehow, I still pay for my mortgage and actually have money left over for some toys.

Somehow, I just don't envision my dying thoughts as wishing I'd flown a bigger airplane, owned just one more house, bought that one yacht or had just one more ex.

 

[ASADFW7]

I have moderated some of the sideways back and forth out of the conversation. Pilots in this section, do not like pilots flying for majors poking a finger in their face and telling them like it is, no matter what the intentions. If you do this constantly to make friends and influence people, you just look bad after a while.

 

[JumpersAway]

In summation- do what works and fits for YOU. However, as far as stability goes, or solvency, I personally think staying at a regional is a far riskier gamble than moving to a legacy. Better to work for the puppet master, than to work for the puppet.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Better to work for the puppet master, than to work for the puppet.

Unless the puppet show owner, decides that the puppet is cheaper than the puppet master, then decides to hire a puppet driver that will work at the 60% of Gippettos current rate, insuring that the puppet will qualify for food stamps....

 

[Beergut]

She started it. Uh uh, HE did. Did not. Did so. Did not. Did so. Poopy head. Doo doo breath, Fart face. MOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMYYYYY!!! This is why I rarely read beyond page 2.

Some are hoping that fuel goes through the roof - putting thousands of "lesser" pilots either out of work or below them on their seniority list. A "lesser" pilot being anyone who didn't follow someone else's (or Kit Darby's) clouded view of the ideal pilot career track.

Explain that ideal progression to all my buddies that jumped for the brass ring and are still on furlough or back at my lowly airline - on the bottom of the list for at least the third time. Ironically, several of those people chose to stay put when given their recall notice. How's THAT for ideal career progression? How about the ones that went to longstanding legacy carriers only to get royally f'd by their fellow pilots during a merger.

Let's face it, luck of the draw, timing, economics, a bunch of MBAs you've never met, and even your brother pilots, have a lot more to do with your career success than your superb abilities.

Cost of fuel may alter the economics slightly. But, even if fuel hits $100 a gallon, a half-full 100-seater will NEVER be more efficient than a full 50-seater.

Good on you if you're at a major raking in the big bucks - if that is how you measure success. Of course, NOBODY's really raking in big bucks any more. With age, I'm figuring out what's important. It's spending holidays and weekends with my family along with the occasional band/choir concert, soccer games, volunteering, and just plain being there. Somehow, I still pay for my mortgage and actually have money left over for some toys.

Somehow, I just don't envision my dying thoughts as wishing I'd flown a bigger airplane, owned just one more house, bought that one yacht or had just one more ex.

:beer:

 

[JumpersAway]

Unless the puppet show owner, decides that the puppet is cheaper than the puppet master, then decides to hire a puppet driver that will work at the 60% of Gippettos current rate, insuring that the puppet will qualify for food stamps....

The flying and puppet issue is not between mainline and regional. The flying will be shuffled from regional to regional until the resources (pilots) no longer support it. Mainline solvency is still a safer bet- regardless of the scope history and your seat durring it. I am one of the believers that is thinking the scope boat has sailed, as far as seats alotted is concerned. Next on the horizon will be the mutation of the "fee for departure" regionals to a code share arrangement. Watch, it WILL be attempted.

 

[nimtz]

Skywest will be branded by 2014. And they will probably do extremely well. The 'get it' in St. George. Delta/united will not be able to compete on west coast point to point. Alaska has gone to strictly feeder and reduced rj feed from horizon. Very different element out west, not exactly dca-lga with 4 branded carriers selling tickets (acai)

Thanks for the rumor. I'll be sure to initiate a short position well before 2014. If that's the plan to fight starving margins are bringing Uncle Jerry then his place is SOL. As for the talk about the mainline job not being worth it, I consistently hold more days off, do much easier flying, and make more then I would be in my old taco jet seat. The peak RJ days of the noughties will be exposed as nothing but a mirage.

 

[Skywest Pylot]

as for the talk about the mainline job not being worth it, i consistently hold more days off, do much easier flying, and make more then i would be in my old taco jet seat. The peak rj days of the noughties will be exposed as nothing but a mirage.

...+1

 

[WSurf]

In summation- do what works and fits for YOU. However, as far as stability goes, or solvency, I personally think staying at a regional is a far riskier gamble than moving to a legacy. Better to work for the puppet master, than to work for the puppet.

So said my buddy too me! Furloughed from US Airways once and Furloughed by United 2 times. Now at Emirates hating his aviation career! All the meantime I've lived a stable life at Piedmont... And best of all have spent more time with my 6 year old daughter then most dad's can ever dream of.
It is what it is!!!!

 

[Nevets]

Nevets, please tell me you are planning to move on to the majors.

That is the plan as of right now. But just like any other pilot at the regionals, you don't know you are a lifer until you are one. Which is PRECISELY why I only applied to two regionals, the two that had the best pilot contracts. I figured that if I was going to be "stuck" that I might as well be stuck at the place with the best pay and QOL.

Why do you ask?