Rev Bedford's Sunday School Lesson To RAH

[Flapjack]

By the way, I never once mentioned how I feel about abortion or any other issue...it not necessary to volunteer this stuff. One does not need to demonstrate piety to debate the issue of appropriate employer conduct and fairness in the workplace.

The issue here as I see it is strictly whether it is appropriate to preach morals and religious views to employees on company letterhead.

 

[SkyWstman]

Rarely is it convenient or pleasurable to speak when Christ says "speak". It stirs all the demons up.

 

[Rip Vanwinkle]

I'm no fan of abortion, but I don't burden my co-workers with my opinions unless they ask about them. It's the most basic sort of courtesy and decency.

Is anyone particularly surprised that an airline CEO considers himself so important that everyone needs to know his opinion, though?

 

[Flapjack]

"Is anyone particularly surprised than an airline CEO considers himself so important that everyone needs to know his opinion, though?"


Good point!

 

[Flapjack]

"Rarely is it convenient or pleasurable to speak when Christ says "speak". It stirs all the demons up."

Nice to know that you consider people who don't think the way you do to be "demons".

Demons are scary, though.

 

[ReverseSensing]

"Rarely is it convenient or pleasurable to speak when Christ says "speak". It stirs all the demons up."

Nice to know that you consider people who don't think the way you do to be "demons".

SkyWstman made a funny and I think you missed it.

And I agree demons are scary. And mean.

 

[Flapjack]

Sweet. I get it now!

 

[wmudriver]

opinions are like a$$holes...everyone has them and they all stink.

 

[BoilerUP]

The thread is not a "win or lose" situation. It's an exchange of ideas.

It's interesting that you would say Corbon is "winning" however...your ability to ignore the voices that disagree with you is very highly developed. That skill is usually best honed over time by strictly limiting your information to one news channel.

Interesting idea. You must have missed my earlier post:

IMO Bedford was "out his mind" to put that in a company newsletter...but it was an in-house memo, on a non-public website. KEEP YOUR DIRTY LAUNDRY IN-HOUSE.

Do you RAH guys really want Bedford (the one who delivered all that growth as manna from heaven) to resign, or are you just trying to publically shame him away from his views?

BTW, the man has a point...

"Ignore the voices that disagree with you?" Nothing of the sort. Corbon, like myself and many others, laugh at the hypocricy of those who want tolerance for everybody except those who have a position contrary to theirs - then it is "threatening" and "hateful" and "ignorant". And thanks for assuming I only watch Fox News (I don't, in fact NBC News is my favorite)....you only prove my point.

 

[8HourPilot]

Really........would you watch something other than FoxNews, stop denying it.

Interesting idea. You must have missed my earlier post:



"Ignore the voices that disagree with you?" Nothing of the sort. Corbon, like myself and many others, laugh at the hypocricy of those who want tolerance for everybody except those who have a position contrary to theirs - then it is "threatening" and "hateful" and "ignorant". And thanks for assuming I only watch Fox News (I don't, in fact NBC News is my favorite)....you only prove my point.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Well at least this made for an intersting thread. Just wasted 10 minutes of my night.

I woulda wasted them anyway

 

[embdrvr]

Sounds like an excellent case of hostile workplace for an employee who's had an abortion to take to the Department of Labor.

Doesn't "sound like" a case of harrassment. It undoubtedly is harrassment of anyone considering or someone who has had an abortion. It is totally out of place.

Now here's what I'd like to see happen next. Someone needs to put together a preachy piece with a different viewpoint, say one that advocates gay marriage, and start posting it on the bulletin boards and using the company email system to spread it.

Of course they'll be fired just like you or I would for inappropriate use of company resources. That person then finds a good lawyer who uses Bedford's email to show that the standards are clearly not being enforced. Anyone know the limits on punitive damages in a wrongful termination suit wherever that company is headquartered? Be a good opportunity for someone who is planning to leave anyway to pick up a lovely parting gift in the form of a cash settlement.

Crap like this has no place in the office. I go to church on Sunday if I'm not flying. That's where I expect to hear religious commentary. Not at work. And highly charged controversial subjects like abortion are the epitome of what not to talk about in the office.

 

[Rerouted]

Pro Life, Pro Choice, Pro...fessional. Bryan Bedford has to learn that there is a time and a place for everything. His weekly letter for the troops is neither the time nor the place for this topic.

 

[Corbon]

Thanks Boilerup, glad to see someone understands. Like the avitar by the way.

Flapjack, your right. It isn't win or lose. I'm not trying to win anything. I'm just saying with that everybody here sees and hears opinions every day they disagree with. Why is it all of a sudden our CEO says something that has been discussed in the media for years and years and they're crying for his head? The abortion issue is nothing new. You're either for it, against it, or somewhere in the middle.

Has anyone written the management team at Delta for donating money to gay rights festivals/parades while at the same time taking pay cuts from their employees? BB may rant about something that is a sensitive issue but thats all he's doing. He's not forcing pay cuts onto us and at the same time donating money to anti-abortion groups.

http://www.slrobertson.com/ga-gay-pride.htm

http://www.southernvoice.com/2005/9-30/news/localnews/localnews_delta.cfm

And American of course,
http://news.cheapflights.com/airlines/2005/11/american_adds_g.html

So where's the outrage? Major airlines in financial struggles to make money are GIVING money to controversial special interests groups. Oh that's right. It's all politically correct and nobodys going to attack that.

Drizzle,
Huh?

 

[Rogue5]

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