Rev Bedford's Sunday School Lesson To RAH

[HHH]

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So BB is "imposing" his views on you???? Grow Up!!! You poor, helpless basket cases. We Americans are so freakin' soft and spoiled.

How about I threaten to cut your head off with a blunt edge if you don't bow down to Allah. Sorry, that's not imposing...it's freedom of speech!

Oh No! I just saw a cross!!! Oh no!!! Someone on TV just said "God"!!!!!!! Oh no!!! It's a nativity scene on a church lawn!!!!!!!!! I can't take this!!!!

Please someone help!!! Call the ACLU. Call President Hillary. Call the media!!!! I don't think I can last any longer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[XJohXJ]

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[spiffomatic]

To support this sort of bully pulpitting from the CEO of a publicly traded company, directed at his employees, in the company update forum, intended to discuss company matters, and in a forum where nobody may challenge him oversteps so many ethical boundaries that it's not even funny.

If you don't agree, imagine if instead he stated something along the lines of:

"I am gravely concerned for those of you who have not accepted Jesus. Only through accepting Him may you find salvation. Millions across the world who have not found Him are lost to the eternal fires of he11 each year and this is perhaps life's greatest tragedy."

That would not differ greatly from what he actually proselytized. Perhaps his comments, or the imagined ones above are appropriate for a preacher or politician. He is currently neither and used the wrong forum for this issue. The Reverend B forgets that he currently serves his flock as CEO, not clergy member.

 

[Oneflap]

It takes alot of balls for someone to publish a letter like that..If you dont like what he has to say dont read it. I think he has a lot of good points. I dont know why some of the idiots on here feel the need to attack someone for writing what they believe. Thats why this world is going down the craper..because people feel the need to attack someone for speaking what he feels is right....If you dont like it try spending a little time writing a public post with your name on it explaining your views on life and see if you have the balls to take what the public has to says about you. I say good job Brian, I just sorry it brought out all the Flaimers with nothing else better in there life but to attack you....Good Job...and for anyone that has something to say about me....BLOW ME>>>> and Im out.

 

[B727FA]

Now here's what I'd like to see happen next. Someone needs to put together a preachy piece with a different viewpoint, say one that advocates gay marriage, and start posting it on the bulletin boards and using the company email system to spread it.

In addition to being a flight crew member, I have a double master's in theology and am an ordained clergy person. As part of my studies I had to write an argument *for* abortion based on scripture, tradition, interpretation and medical science (how's that for mixing up the pot?). You can bet that I'd NEVER be allowed to say ONE WORD at work about that.

I believe he ABSOLUTLY has the RIGHT to think anything he said. He doesn't, however, have the right to post that under "company news." Unless he were to provide an equal and protected forum under which an opposite view may be expressed (like anyone would), it's considered, in a legal sense, a bully-pulpit. That's not just me speaking...that's labor law experts with whom I've spoken.

All you Right Wing folks who will mock this issue we're having will accuse the "left wing unions" and "liberal media" of trying to silence Pastor Bedford. We're not. He can think and say what he wants...in the appropriate forum. *I* can't discuss this at work, he shouldn't either.

Here's another example of the (typically) pilot group, which tends to be white and conservative, hating the union and progressive thought--unless it's about scope, CBA's, and their pensions.

 

[ReverseSensing]

It's interesting that most of the posters who oppose Bedford's actions are basing their opposition not on what he said, but the circumstances. Most of the posters who are defending Bedford and accusing their opponents of being whiners, etc. seem unable to recognize the difference between Bedford possessing deeply held personal beliefs and him using his stature and power to attempt to convert his subordinates to his beliefs.

Bedford can obviously believe as he wishes; he can devote all his energy and personal wealth to promoting his beliefs; he can stand on the street corner wearing a sandwich board stating his beliefs. But he exercised extremely poor judgement when he crossed the line and used a company forum to espouse his beliefs.

Some devout Christians in this country believe that God is punishing our country by allowing our servicemen to die in Iraq and Afghanistan. In their minds, it is our country's punishment for various transgressions our society and government has allowed against their value system. Hypothetically, if Bedford held these bizarre views, would he have so many supporters on this board? No? It takes courage to stand up and say you have deeply held, divinely-inspired views that ours sons and daughters are dying as punishment for our "sins." Would some of you admire him in this case, or only when it concerns abortion? Would you believe he was well within his rights to put out a company memo if he held these views?

 

[b19]

"We have turned sex in to a form of recreation or sport "

And this is a problem? Is anyone getting laid overthere?

 

[regionaltard]

Wahabi Muslims and Wahabi Baptists have far more in common with each other than they do with the average US citizen.

 

[propilot1983]

Since when have we as Americans FORGOTTEN the FREEDOM that our SOLDIERS are fighting for right now??? RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH! Take it or leave it folks!! Quit throwing stones at Bedford.

 

[BoilerUP]

Bedford has the right to free speech, but not to use his position as CEO to impose those beliefs on the people he works for. He made a very stupid decision...because I definately don't think it was a mistake.

Airing your company's dirty laundry on the internet is never a good thing. This should have been kept in-house at RAH.

 

[Capt America]

To support this sort of bully pulpitting from the CEO of a publicly traded company, directed at his employees, in the company update forum, intended to discuss company matters, and in a forum where nobody may challenge him oversteps so many ethical boundaries that it's not even funny.

If you don't agree, imagine if instead he stated something along the lines of:

"I am gravely concerned for those of you who have not accepted Jesus. Only through accepting Him may you find salvation. Millions across the world who have not found Him are lost to the eternal fires of he11 each year and this is perhaps life's greatest tragedy."

That would not differ greatly from what he actually proselytized. Perhaps his comments, or the imagined ones above are appropriate for a preacher or politician. He is currently neither and used the wrong forum for this issue. The Reverend B forgets that he currently serves his flock as CEO, not clergy member.

There are no ethical boundries for the truth....I am concerned for those of you who have not accepted Jesus. The truth is the truth not just in an apropriate forum.

Believe me he doesn't forget who he serves.

 

[DOVPILOT]

So BB is "imposing" his views on you???? Grow Up!!! You poor, helpless basket cases. We Americans are so freakin' soft and spoiled.

How about I threaten to cut your head off with a blunt edge if you don't bow down to Allah. Sorry, that's not imposing...it's freedom of speech!

Oh No! I just saw a cross!!! Oh no!!! Someone on TV just said "God"!!!!!!! Oh no!!! It's a nativity scene on a church lawn!!!!!!!!! I can't take this!!!!

Please someone help!!! Call the ACLU. Call President Hillary. Call the media!!!! I don't think I can last any longer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOVE IT!!!!!

Try this

http://www.aclj.org/

 

[EMB170Pilot]

Can we let this F'ing thread die already!

 

[Boris Badenov]

..I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. Matthew 19:24

Bryan K. Bedford, Chairman, President, and CEO Republic Airways Holdings, total 2003 compensation: $688,308.

Believe me he doesn't forget who he serves.

Oh, I quite agree. Who do you think that might be?

This has nothing to do with relgion. The only thing at issue here is common manners, reading comprehension (w/r/t the constitution of the US), and the attention span of the "religious" folks who spend a whole lot more time worrying about what they think the Bible tells OTHER people NOT to do than what it tells them TO do.

 

[DrewBlows]

If you dont like what he has to say dont read it.

How would you know what he has to say if you don't read it?