Real Men of Genius....The ASA MEC

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Hey it's one of the volunteer cheerleaders!

CrewPass wow, how long did that take to put in place and how much did ALPO do? Probably only what the TSA said they could.

And how long did it take? 911 aniversary next month, will be 7 years.

Now thats a fast track job! GO ALPO!

If it was a real union it would have told all the pilots, if this doesn't get fixed now we'll all not come to work the first day of the next month.

The problem would have been fixed that afternoon.

But no, ALPO is really just a business and didn't want to risk a fine.

Maybe if ALPO had a real set of stones maybe OO would join, but most of us just see it as lethargic, clumsy, poorly run, out dated, failure.

Easy to talk tough with that burka on.... how long did it take the OO pilots? How long would it take the OO Student Council to get CREW PASS?

Very pathetic.... the equivalent of an Afghani woman talking trash about how some one else should do something she never can....

So ya Rez, if it gets through security faster great, I'll try it.

Of course you will.. because you have no shame, no self respect.... you leach off of others hard work then complain that the hard work of others is unsat...

That is who the OO pilots are and you've just clarified it again...

I answered your question.

Now answer mine.

Does Prater and Worth get a pension on top of their nearly half million incomes at member expense?

Ya think they could have smart enough to put a couple of bucks away........

First off... what do you care? You've chosen to be a burka leach, give up your rights to Jerry and sponge off of ALPA, and now you want to get involved in ALPA internal affairs... sounds like a serious identity problem...

I see you guys in the terminal... looking like clones. At least get a tie tack... you guys look silly with your 1950's thin SLICK ties. Get a CRJ tie tack, or an American flag (you do believe in democracy don't you?)... just something so you don't look like you just go popped out of the mold and pushed off the assembly line of Jerry's factory...


The ALPA president's pension is part of a compensation package that is put together and voted on by representatives from every pilot group. Why do you have a problem with that? There are no secrets here....


Now, answer my questions...

Do you have a problem with Jerry's compensation?

If you did, could you access the Student council to change it?

Do you have a rep that will vote on it?

Do you have an ability to have a say in your job, work rules, retirement, etc... or do you just do as Jerry tell you? Jerry has a contract... do you?

 

[CFIT]

Oh Rez,

So with out a tie tack we're not good enough?Whatever-

It's too bad you've tied yourself to failed organization.


But keep on being the good cheerleader, it makes some of these guys here feel better about throwing all of their money at it.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Oh Rez,

So with out a tie tack we're not good enough?Whatever-

No.. again you seem not to be able to understand what really matters... The tie tack issue means there is no union pin. The next time you see a pilot for the carrier you serve.. check out the tie.

At least get a OO student council pin.. or will Jerry not allow it?

It's too bad you've tied yourself to failed organization.

the OO pilots have failed.... then again, it all depends on who perspective.... since you like to freeload I guess you guys haven't failed...

But keep on being the good cheerleader, it makes some of these guys here feel better about throwing all of their money at it.

I'd rather be a cheerleader of democracy then be one of Jerry's Burka Leaches.... do what you are told, when you are told and how you are told...

 

[79%N1]

Whether you like them or not, it is ALPA, not ALPO. That is just childish to give them a stupid nickname you made up because you do not like the organization. What, are you 12? Grow the f*ck up already. I could have a bit more respect for your opinion if you didn't post like you are a seventh grader.

Let me guess.......you must fly the 'Bro".

 

[XPOO]

I'd rather be a cheerleader of democracy then be one of Jerry's Burka Leaches.... do what you are told, when you are told and how you are told...

JA runs the most successful airline of it's kind. Until he shows that is no longer the case, no one will mind.

Also, JA gave everyone a 35th Anniversary pin, some just might not choose to wear it. So, what?

What's long, black and hangs from an @sshole? Rez O. Lewshun's tie.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

JA runs the most successful airline of it's kind. Until he shows that is no longer the case, no one will mind.

This mindset is the same as the Chinese ... as long as capitialism is thriving and my life is getting better or good, then who cares about individual rights....


Not the point... SWA runs THE most successful airline. And SWA it heavily unionized. See, SWA makes unions partners in its success. Something I wish every airline did. But when management at UAL, DAL, NWA, CAL and most others including OO treat labor as cost to be controlled, self representation is necessary and very American.

You pride yourself on working for the most successful airline of its kind at your own expense... That is like an indentured servant priding himself to other servants that he lives on the best plantation...

Give it a break... get real.. get representation..

Also, JA gave everyone a 35th Anniversary pin, some just might not choose to wear it. So, what?

Why? No pride in Skywest? I'd wear a service pin for my company...

What's long, black and hangs from an @sshole? Rez O. Lewshun's tie.

Cute... the best you can offer? The discussion is OO pilots using CREW PASS that ALPA made happen...

 

[XPOO]

This mindset is the same as the Chinese ... as long as capitialism is thriving and my life is getting better or good, then who cares about individual rights....


Not the point... SWA runs THE most successful airline. And SWA it heavily unionized. See, SWA makes unions partners in its success. Something I wish every airline did. But when management at UAL, DAL, NWA, CAL and most others including OO treat labor as cost to be controlled, self representation is necessary and very American.

You pride yourself on working for the most successful airline of its kind at your own expense... That is like an indentured servant priding himself to other servants that he lives on the best plantation...

Give it a break... get real.. get representation..

Last I checked, Southwest wasn't a regional airline. Hell, they don't even fly outside of the contiguous 48. But, at least they were smart enough to start a real in-house union, instead of the rinse, lather, repeat ALPA.

Why? No pride in Skywest? I'd wear a service pin for my company...

SkyWest isn't like Chotchkie's, there is no minimum requirement for "pieces of flare".

Cute... the best you can offer? The discussion is OO pilots using CREW PASS that ALPA made happen...

You rarely ever care what the topic is about when you spew your ALPA rhetoric, so why should I?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Last I checked, Southwest wasn't a regional airline. Hell, they don't even fly outside of the contiguous 48. But, at least they were smart enough to start a real in-house union, instead of the rinse, lather, repeat ALPA.

Wow... and you fly to Canada..... very cosmopolitan... Do you fly to Mexico too?

Don't get me wrong.. I like Canada... in fact the Canadian gov't refused to allow UAL to rape its workers pensions...

What do you think of that?

Do you think its fair that UAL raped its US workers pensions? Since you love being at the mercy of management?


What does SWA being a regional or not have to do with it.. in fact.. I say it has more value because SWA is its own brand.. unlike OO who really is just a vendor for DAL and UAL... just like the fuelers and caterers...

So.. as long as you can undercut and be the outsourcers you'll have success...


SWAPA is able to be successful for three reasons...

one their management runs a successful airline
two they make unions their partners
three it is easier to manage a small group with a single territory than many groups with many territories...

But if you want to compare apples to apples what has SWAPA done for you that ALPA has not...

SkyWest isn't like Chotchkie's, there is no minimum requirement for "pieces of flare".

That is obvious...

You rarely ever care what the topic is about when you spew your ALPA rhetoric, so why should I?

Because you are leaching off of the hard work of ALPA volunteers all while being very disrespectful.

The Burka leach rationale is selfish... OO pilots just want their quick upgrade, keep their heads low, and move on to a......... union carrier...

The hypocrisy of OO pilots is disgusting....

You want respect but you aren't willing to give it...

 

[PCL_128]

Because you are leaching off of the hard work of ALPA volunteers all while being very disrespectful.

Actually, he's not. He's not even an OO pilot. He's just a cubicle-jockey in dispatch that thinks he knows something about pilot unions. He is sadly mistaken.

 

[XPOO]

Rez...

I had a nice long reply, which would have pointed out how alike Southwest and SkyWest are, and not as dissimilar as you try to make them sound. Then I decided to just point out that I said "of it's kind" and Southwest is not a regional. You need to comprehend as well as read before "jumping to conclusions" there Milton.

 

[XPOO]

Actually, he's not. He's not even an OO pilot. He's just a cubicle-jockey in dispatch that thinks he knows something about pilot unions. He is sadly mistaken.

Glad to see you are back off your suspension. Did you henpeck that response with the only finger you don't have up ALPA's rectum?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Rez...

I had a nice long reply, which would have pointed out how alike Southwest and SkyWest are, and not as dissimilar as you try to make them sound. Then I decided to just point out that I said "of it's kind" and Southwest is not a regional. You need to comprehend as well as read before "jumping to conclusions" there Milton.

I am sure you did.. your boy Walter had a long reply but then decided I wasn't worth it....

But its not about me.. its about the debate...

When the debate starts evolving to critical thinking that is when you drop off..... you do a great job with funny wit made for the water cooler however, when it comes to responsibility and effectiveness you drop off...

for example... what you said here...

Glad to see you are back off your suspension. Did you henpeck that response with the only finger you don't have up ALPA's rectum?

More immaturity...

You enjoy the ability to sit and (try to) judge from a position of no responsibility... like an aloof union member who has no ownership, you take cheap shots, use sexual comments and personal attacks....

Quite different from someone who has decided to accept responsibility and is trying to make things better..

You have responsibility as a dispatcher. How'd you like it if someone came by your desk/computer and started chiding your job? It would be easy to question fuel loads, alternate airports etc.. if one could just have to walk away and not have to justify choices...

And that is you....

You have no connection to pilot unions, so you can joke, ridicule and chide all you want... regardless, there are some of us who've taken ownership in the profession... and despite the rhetoric from you and others we will continue to do our best to make things better... and yes that includes the OO pilots.

Like any organization made of men and women there are going to be mistakes.... See it is easy for OO pilots... they never try so they never make mistakes. So how can their performacne be judged? How perfect... Liken it to sports... one could say.. 'I've never thrown an interception..' well of course not.. because you've never played and thus you've never made a touchdown either...

But like any person, you and I included, we all make mistakes.

So continue to speak out from a position of non responsibility with no consequence and immaturity and I'll continue to defend the profession.

 

[XPOO]

You go ahead and defend your profession. We will continue to support and defend our coworkers.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

You go ahead and defend your profession. We will continue to support and defend our coworkers.

How?

You have no grievance procedure? No contract? (jerry has one)... no agreement....

There is nothing to defend....

as for support....

the only way to support your coworkers is akin to a wives club. You can send greeting cards and have a sympathetic shoulder to cry on... but that is about it....

 

[XPOO]

All you do is use SkyWest as a whipping boy to further your agenda. I think you need to find a subpar regional with no union representation if you are trying to recruit some zombies. It might be more convincing.