Ram Air Freight Pay Scale Increase

[labbats]

Arguing that regional pilots are making half of what they deserve is rich entertainment from someone defending a freight hauler that just UPPED their rates to $90 a day.

Before you get all defensive... day runs are good and RAM air has quick upgrades and generally happy pilots, but let's not get ridiculous about underpaid pilots since 2001 has come, gone, and changed everything everywhere.

 

[imacdog]

For anyone thinking of going:

Ram is an excellent company to work for. Maintenance is top notch. Good schedules for the most part. If I could do it over again, I would have stayed there instead of leaving for a regional job.

Why would you have stayed? Just curious, I flew at a similar 135 piston freight company but piston time is only worth so much. If you want to advance your career you will eventually need to start flying turbines. Some freight companies with turbine/jet aircraft will allow that but piston-only companies will not.

 

[mcjohn]

"ops check normal" "we couldnt simulate the problem" "just fly it back I'm sure it will be fine" "the oil is supposed to leak a little bit" "just finish the run with the gear down"

The oil IS supposed to leak a little bit where I tow banners. Problem is that we do not have cowlings. Just one of those "eye brow" things around the engine to aid in cooling but guess where the oil goes. All over the freakin wind screen. We keep a bucket of soap water at the fuel farm which is neccesary to use at every refueling to wash all the oil off the screen. Give me a job that pays more than 40-80 bucks a day in a plane WITH an electrical system and a cowling that I don't have to hand prop and I'm happy. I used to worry about every little tiny maintenance issue before I started this job but this is some real flying and I've learned a lot. I know it sounds crazy but I've learned that I don't even need an airspeed indicator anymore or really anything other than my oil pressure and temp guages (now before you sallies go running to call the FAA on me, we do have em all) As far as maintenance goes, ours is top notch. We even have a machine shop where we can fabricate new parts!

Now quit yer bitchin!! You all are in paradise as far as I'm concerned.

 

[T-Storm Chaser]

"ops check normal" "we couldnt simulate the problem" "just fly it back I'm sure it will be fine" "the oil is supposed to leak a little bit" "just finish the run with the gear down"

Very true, very true.

 

[T-Storm Chaser]

And T-Storm Chaser is just another ex-Package pilot that has a hard time admitting he got sold out by the man. So he dumps on Ram every chance he gets and twice on Sunday.

And thats cause you lied to us. But hey, I gave RAM a fair shake. Glad I left though, I hear things got worse afterwards.

 

[pilot1704]

Think before you go and bash all who reply this thread!

I might be your next check airman!

 

[Trogdor]

All I'm trying to say is that as far as check haulers go, Ram is one of the best. Alot of guys I flew with there got good corporate gigs. There are some bad freight companies out there and I'm sure all of us can name a bunch. So if you want to go to a descent company and learn how to really fly, check them out.

 

[8inMan]

Good for Ram. They fixed the one problem that those of us who enjoyed working there didn't like - the pay. I bet people will stay longer now. If they had offered those incentives when I was there, I probly wouldn't have left.

 

[white knuckle]

"Plus 1.5 times day rate for extra flying."

What does this mean? How many hours is extra flying? Is it an extra day? Extra hour? This may be well known but I'm new. Thanks.

 

[limodriver1]

I think it is funny when regional F/O's are talking about pay

Ramair pay is not very far from pay at regional airlines like TSA, CHQ,Mesa,regions....

Some company's prefer guys who has lots of PIC time in fixwing airplanes! sure they all like to have 500 hours turbine, and type-ratings etc...

As long as you can stay alive years as an pilot and you have proven track record you qualify pretty much any flying job out there! ( Sure you need some inside pull etc... to expedite your hiring!

Regionals sucks!!! Go for corporate or charter.

 

[mcjohn]

I might be your next check airman!

Here is a perfect example of my biggest pet peeve of online aviation forums. I have no clue if you work for Ram or what. You put that little stop sign next to your positive posts regarding Ram only to seem that you are actually posting with sarcasm. So which group are you directing that above quote to? Pro or anti Rammers? And what makes you feel entitled to throw your "Check Airman" position around as an intimidator. That is not a very professional way to handle that responsibility in my opinion. Especially on an anonomous internet forum.

Hopefully your just flame baiting or something and not really a RA check airman because that WOULD tell me something about the company. There are plenty of check haulers out there.

 

[pilot1704]

Ramex is best thing what happend to me after flight instructing!

Ramex was best thing what happend to me after been flight instructor!

It is great place to build quality time(multi,-PIC,actual instrument time...)

Sure pay is not great but,it does not differ that much about regional pay where you are sitting in right seat somecases years,before you make PIC time and somekind of money!

For you MCguy, I am not Ramex check airman but you never know where your career takes you!

I would recommend fly, keep your nose clean and try to keep your standards high what ever you do!

and here comes stop sign are you ready!

 

[Way2Broke]

Now instead of living in the hangar and eating ramen in the package, you can live in the hangar and eat the raman that comes in the bowl.

Of course Ramex serves its purpose in the food chain. As long as you know that your in good shape. Fly safe and watch your butt when your at "time building" jobs.

 

[eyeh8flt]

I hate check flying, but love those Barbie jets. I learned my lesson! Nobody that pays real money cares about twin piston time, just ask you local insurance company. I should have moved on alot earlier.

 

[IFollowRoads]

Nobody that pays real money cares about twin piston time, just ask you local insurance company.

Sad, but true.