Ram Air Freight Pay Scale Increase

[pilot1704]

Think before you go and bash all who reply this thread!

I might be your next check airman!

 

[Trogdor]

All I'm trying to say is that as far as check haulers go, Ram is one of the best. Alot of guys I flew with there got good corporate gigs. There are some bad freight companies out there and I'm sure all of us can name a bunch. So if you want to go to a descent company and learn how to really fly, check them out.

 

[8inMan]

Good for Ram. They fixed the one problem that those of us who enjoyed working there didn't like - the pay. I bet people will stay longer now. If they had offered those incentives when I was there, I probly wouldn't have left.

 

[white knuckle]

"Plus 1.5 times day rate for extra flying."

What does this mean? How many hours is extra flying? Is it an extra day? Extra hour? This may be well known but I'm new. Thanks.

 

[limodriver1]

I think it is funny when regional F/O's are talking about pay

Ramair pay is not very far from pay at regional airlines like TSA, CHQ,Mesa,regions....

Some company's prefer guys who has lots of PIC time in fixwing airplanes! sure they all like to have 500 hours turbine, and type-ratings etc...

As long as you can stay alive years as an pilot and you have proven track record you qualify pretty much any flying job out there! ( Sure you need some inside pull etc... to expedite your hiring!

Regionals sucks!!! Go for corporate or charter.

 

[mcjohn]

I might be your next check airman!

Here is a perfect example of my biggest pet peeve of online aviation forums. I have no clue if you work for Ram or what. You put that little stop sign next to your positive posts regarding Ram only to seem that you are actually posting with sarcasm. So which group are you directing that above quote to? Pro or anti Rammers? And what makes you feel entitled to throw your "Check Airman" position around as an intimidator. That is not a very professional way to handle that responsibility in my opinion. Especially on an anonomous internet forum.

Hopefully your just flame baiting or something and not really a RA check airman because that WOULD tell me something about the company. There are plenty of check haulers out there.

 

[pilot1704]

Ramex is best thing what happend to me after flight instructing!

Ramex was best thing what happend to me after been flight instructor!

It is great place to build quality time(multi,-PIC,actual instrument time...)

Sure pay is not great but,it does not differ that much about regional pay where you are sitting in right seat somecases years,before you make PIC time and somekind of money!

For you MCguy, I am not Ramex check airman but you never know where your career takes you!

I would recommend fly, keep your nose clean and try to keep your standards high what ever you do!

and here comes stop sign are you ready!

 

[Way2Broke]

Now instead of living in the hangar and eating ramen in the package, you can live in the hangar and eat the raman that comes in the bowl.

Of course Ramex serves its purpose in the food chain. As long as you know that your in good shape. Fly safe and watch your butt when your at "time building" jobs.

 

[eyeh8flt]

I hate check flying, but love those Barbie jets. I learned my lesson! Nobody that pays real money cares about twin piston time, just ask you local insurance company. I should have moved on alot earlier.

 

[IFollowRoads]

Nobody that pays real money cares about twin piston time, just ask you local insurance company.

Sad, but true.

 

[mcjohn]

Where are you from pilot1704?

 

[na4life]

Foxy Bravo?
Anyone,
Foxy Bravo?
You out there?

 

[Way2Broke]

Sad, but true.

Very untrue! There are plenty of good paying, high QOL piston jobs.

 

[IFollowRoads]

Very untrue! There are plenty of good paying, high QOL piston jobs.

Yes, but to impress an insurance company for a good corporate captain position you'll need turbine time.

 

[Buddy1958]

Read This Closely People!!!

- What percentage of pilots at RAF ACTUALLY stay longer than a year? Very, VERY few. It seemed the average was 4-6 months, when I was there last year. Must be less now - as it APPEARS they're trying to make it LOOK like they're throwing money at you!

- VERY, VERY few line pilots (especially multi-engine rated guys/gals) stay longer than 6 months! They get fed up with the iffy maintenance and single-pilot IFR with equipment failures.

- Again, as I can attest to from personal experience, it's a great place to build time - but not to stagnate at. There are MUCH better paying jobs out there, with much better equipment to fly, with real TANGIBLE benefits.

- Please read between the lines people. Companies like this DO NOT throw money at people. There's always a catch, even if it looks like they do.

Come on "Big Dog", I know you've got some BS wisdom to throw out there! Why don't you use your real name, or at least let us know it's really Big John, and not Big Dog!!!

 

[Big Dog]

I made no comments as far as what one may make of the job in this thread. I simply posted the pay scale and let people make up their own mind. I say this to everybody; it is what it is. It is primarily check and bank material hauling in piston single and multi engine aircraft. As always, whether in a 1976 PA32 or a new E190, it is up to the PIC to find and write up discrepancies. If you choose to fly broken equipment, then that's the PIC's choice.
If you choose to use RAF as a place to stay 6-8 months and build your multi time, the choice is yours. If you want to stay for a whole year or 2 and work your way up the food chain, that choice is also yours. You also have many choices to make about where to live, depending on whether your priority is flight time, multi time, living near family and getting to see them, QOL or whatever. Perhaps that's the best thing about RAF, is that you have choice and flexability, something many other places don't offer. My personal choice is QOL as opposed to the shinny new jet, a pay cut and a 4 year wait to upgrade, not to mention the reserve schedule and commuting. I have been rewarded with regular and steady increases in pay for sticking around a little bit. To each his own.
As far as me being a certain owner in the company, you couldn't be farther from the truth...I suggest you STFU about that. I'm not him.

 

[coltsfn8888]

Big Dog is it true there is now a six month 2400 dollar contract at Ram now?

 

[mcjohn]

The Concord domicile at Ram is still my plan. Some of you folks need to lighten up IMO. If you're the kind of person that is ALWAYS searching for greener pastures then I'm sure it's very easy to snub your nose at MANY companies. If you truly love flying and aren't in it ONLY for the money then it should be a little easier to size up a company on what they offer. A freaking J O B !! And maybe a tolerable QOL. Like I eluded to in a previous post, you can't run around freaking out about every little maintenance issue. And when you do exercise your rights of PIC and refuse to fly something, your comany should respect that. When they don't (within reason) then it's time for those greener pastures. A minor oil leak is nothing. A dead mag is another. Experienced pilots know when to say when. (Not that I'm THAT experienced or anything, but I have learned a lot regarding maintenance is the past few months.)

 

[T-Storm Chaser]

The Concord domicile at Ram is still my plan. Some of you folks need to lighten up IMO. If you're the kind of person that is ALWAYS searching for greener pastures then I'm sure it's very easy to snub your nose at MANY companies. If you truly love flying and aren't in it ONLY for the money then it should be a little easier to size up a company on what they offer. A freaking J O B !! And maybe a tolerable QOL. Like I eluded to in a previous post, you can't run around freaking out about every little maintenance issue. And when you do exercise your rights of PIC and refuse to fly something, your comany should respect that. When they don't (within reason) then it's time for those greener pastures. A minor oil leak is nothing. A dead mag is another. Experienced pilots know when to say when. (Not that I'm THAT experienced or anything, but I have learned a lot regarding maintenance is the past few months.)

Go to Ram and you will end up learning alot more. But not necessarily in a good way. Bud, it doesn't matter what company you fly for, they aren't gonna like it when you MX out a bird or write something up. Either way, it means money out of their pocket. Don't ever expect them to respect it, they just have to deal with it. Oh yeah, if you are gonna refuse to fly ANYTHING, make sure you have a damn good reason and make sure it is in writing. I have seen several a pilot get canned for having balls(telling MX or mngmt to stick it) but no brains (writing up the problem and maybe taking pictures). These days it is all about CYOA. Who can do it the best. And don't expect the company to look out for you.

 

[airjake]

mcjohn, look into airnet, same great flying experience, except all multi (or C208), better pay, upgrade to jet, and you can write-up whatever you want. Oh, and you should never lecture freight dogs about PIC authority or provide anecdotal evidence from your banner-towing career. I doubt you ever towed one through ice or thunderstorms in the middle of the night. Just a little advice. Take it or leave it.