Polar Air Cargo, 30 days out from possible strike.

[User Name]

Not fun...

All true. A lot of people are getting caught up in some history too. Apparently when Atlas was in negotiations a couple years ago, Polar was quite open about flying Atlas' struck work - if the Atlas guys were to strike. Not a precedent to set. Management played the same game and took Atlas planes over to Polar, now Atlas is getting the planes back. Who the hell knows what will happen when Atlas pilots have to negotiate in a year or so. Any insight into the above history would be appreciated from more experienced collegues, I am quite naive about it all being a new guy at Atlas. Worst case for Polar crew is a "merger" by management - all planes come to Atlas or are sold and bye-bye Polar with hiring preference to Polar pilots and of course to the bottom of seniority at Atlas. That last scenario is all speculation, but within the realm of reality. Best wishes to all.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

It is my understanding that the Narita slots are POLAR only and ATLAS is NOT allowed to fly them, is that correct and are the China slots the same way?

 

[Whale Rider]

Its amazing how the critics here have failed to point to out the contract fact that No Polar pilot can be furloughed as long as there is an Atlas pilot flying Polar planes on Polar routes. Speaking of routes, those contracts in China, Korea, Japan, and the military contracts are non-transferrable. If anyone else flies them they will loose them up to a rebid amongst the cargo carriers. Just because of current events, Polar is not fininshed yet. No speculation, these are facts.

Stay United Polar!!!!!

 

[rtmcfi]

Atlas folks-
Help out the Polar guys. You are next.....

 

[rudderdog]

Atlas folks-
Help out the Polar guys. You are next.....

I would expect this, especially if Atlas is ALPA as opposed to the APA.

 

[b747dogg]

Atlas folks-
Help out the Polar guys. You are next.....

Polar guys should of thought of this when they sold out the Atlas guys in the 11th hour. It's Karma!!!

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

Polar guys should of thought of this when they sold out the Atlas guys in the 11th hour. It's Karma!!!

Thats the way you are going to beat a common enemy............turn your guns on your allies.


The past is the past, different MEC's now and probably half the sen list wasn't around back then. A lot has changed since then, common managment now, common ground staff etc...in fact about the only thing not merged yet is the crews. If Polar gets boned now and ends up with a very substandard contract, Which contract do you think is going to be the one that Managment wants for the combined carrier?

Kind of like if we told the British to stuff IT back in 42.......sorry we got the Japanese to deal with, plus we are still mad about that whole War of 1812 thing.....how dare you burn down the White House!!!!

 

[Fliteidol]

Are the Atlas/Polar MEC`s talking to each other? Was the "interim" offer from managment proposed to or voted on by the membership or was there a standing order to reject it if it did not meet certain and all criteria? Firing 50 type rated (50 x $$$$$$$) pilots seems extreme to me, very sad!

 

[410dude]

I heard from some UPS guys just the other day that the rumor of them buying Polar is alive and well again. This time it could have some merit with them about to strike. Actually they said UPS just wants the -400s and nothing else.

 

[Fliteidol]

Fu*k off 410Dope, the adults are talking!