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Pinnacle pilots vote 99.39% in favor of a strike.

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Ditto as well:

My support and best wishes to the PCL pilot group

From a former PCL pilot
 
To those who think that a strike vote is an act of futility, I ask this:

What else would you do? Throw your hands in the air and resign that you have been foresaken by the airline gods?

Management already has an easy of enough time of taking advantage of their respective employee groups. Why make it any easier for them? A strong showing such as this, albeit inactionable for the time being, will give the management team pause.

Ok, this thread was about PCL not SKYW. :)
Stay strong guys!
 
Well that and it gave Republic the contract that was supposed to go to ASA, remember the lift for Continental?

I don't care if we lose every contract out there until we get our own contract. And it better be a pretty DAMN GOOD one, or it will be voted down.
 
I was a NH when this Continental thing was going down, but anyways, our then Prez BL came in and blatently said , "We are exploring options to fly for Continental's available contract." You do not have to, nor will you believe me. But according from the proverbial horse's mouth, the bid was there.

I wouldn't believe anything management tells you in class in the middle of negotiations and you can count on about 10% of what management says to classes when there are no negotiations. They will tell you things are great when it suits THEIR agenda and tell you things are terrible when it supports THEIR agenda.

The "you guys need to sign the deal we have on the table now so we can get new flying" line has been repeated at every regional airline every time a contract has been negotiated. It's a negotiating tactic and nothing more.

I asked my friend, who is a member in the Operator's Union if he would sign a deal if management told them they would buy a new crane. He said he'd tell them to "go fornicate themselves". I have no idea (well I have some idea) why pilots buy into this line of BS. Until management gives it's right to negotiate lift contracts to ALPA, pilot's won't negotiate for new aircraft.
 
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Its a moral booster to the guys flying the line, and with the Bush regime leaving office we airline pilot peons may soon have strike leverage back.

A 99+ strike vote isn't going to change things drastically but it does tell management that even if our pilots are backed into morgages and debt they are fed up enough to become fatalistic about there jobs and strike regardless of their personal finances because this company has sucked the life out of 99+% their employees.

I'm sure you would have rather been negotiating under Clinton........Oh that's right he's the one that HAS blocked an airline strike......How many has Bush blocked? Perhaps do some research rather than just jumping on the anti-republican bandwagon that our illustrious union likes to promote. Any yes many people did vote for Bush. It's called an election.
 
I'm sure you would have rather been negotiating under Clinton........Oh that's right he's the one that HAS blocked an airline strike......How many has Bush blocked? Perhaps do some research rather than just jumping on the anti-republican bandwagon that our illustrious union likes to promote. Any yes many people did vote for Bush. It's called an election.

It gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling, that even as Bush augers the country into the ground, there will be those who still think he's the greatest President in history.

Way to go!

How many rulings from the presidentially-appointed NMB has Bush had to reverse? True, it's zero. That just means that the board clearly understands the administrations guidelines not to release anyone unless a clear strike breaking force is established. (Northwest Mechanics, 2005)

To be honest, your staunch, gun-toting republicanism blows my mind away. You're a regional pilot- Bush most certainly does not care about you and your income level. He cares only for your bosses. Keep that in mind.
 
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We at ASA did that 3 years ago, and it didn't do anything except give ALPA some material for their press releases.

I strongly disagree! It shows solidarity! A low percentage strongly reflects the inverse. A favorable vote is an important and integral part to the process!

Congratulations, Pinnacle Pilots! I support your efforts and look forward to participating in your events. How about you John Pennekamp?
 
yeah just about 49% the first time around, but at least his victory shows that mentally challenged people can still lead successful lives.

Yeh, Kerry would have done such a better job...

Bush is an idiot no doubt, but Kerry wouldn't have done any better..

I love how it always boils down to who is mentally challenged based on who they voted for..

The president is a puppet.. Nothing more, nothing less..

I guess we'll see how Hilary does with the other half of the "mentally challenged" elect her...
 
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Yeh, Kerry would have done such a better job...

Bush is an idiot no doubt, but Kerry wouldn't have done any better..

I love how it always boils down to who is mentally challenged based on who they voted for..

The president is a puppet.. Nothing more, nothing less..

I guess we'll see how Hilary does with the other half of the "mentally challenged" elect her...

i wasn't calling the people that voted for him mentally challenged. :)
 
I'm sure you would have rather been negotiating under Clinton........Oh that's right he's the one that HAS blocked an airline strike......How many has Bush blocked? Perhaps do some research rather than just jumping on the anti-republican bandwagon that our illustrious union likes to promote. Any yes many people did vote for Bush. It's called an election.

Bush just perfected the process. You don't have to block a strike if you prevent a release in the first place.
 
I'm sure you would have rather been negotiating under Clinton........Oh that's right he's the one that HAS blocked an airline strike......
I assume you're referring to the strike of the APA members at AMR. In that case, the block was requested by the unions at AMR. It wouldn't have really been a strike, but rather a lockout. Clinton stopped the lockout as requested. I certainly don't claim that Clinton was a great pro-labor President. In fact, his record was pretty poor (NAFTA anyone?). But, Bush really puts him to shame. Bush has created the most anti-union environment since the beginning of the labor movement. Are you aware that he tried to sneak a bill through Congress that would have designated any striking transportation workers as "terrorists?"
How many has Bush blocked?

As others have said, you don't have to block anything directly when you've appointed the most anti-labor NMB in history. The NMB does all of his wet work for him. That way he doesn't have to take the bad publicity for directly blocking the strikes with a PEB.
 
I wouldn't believe anything management tells you in class in the middle of negotiations and you can count on about 10% of what management says to classes when there are no negotiations. They will tell you things are great when it suits THEIR agenda and tell you things are terrible when it supports THEIR agenda.

The "you guys need to sign the deal we have on the table now so we can get new flying" line has been repeated at every regional airline every time a contract has been negotiated. It's a negotiating tactic and nothing more.

I asked my friend, who is a member in the Operator's Union if he would sign a deal if management told them they would buy a new crane. He said he'd tell them to "go fornicate themselves". I have no idea (well I have some idea) why pilots buy into this line of BS. Until management gives it's right to negotiate lift contracts to ALPA, pilot's won't negotiate for new aircraft.

Drew-
I completely agree, but I stated that to show that according to our mgmt. the bid was in. No doubt in my mind, then and now, it was a ploy
 

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