Pinnacle, Mesaba, Colgan get TA

[CptMurf]

Summaries out. New ideas for all pilot groups, it's going to take a a while to digest and evaluate.

 

[RJLoser]

The Summary "In the race to the Bottom, Pinnacle is First."

obviously, you have not seen the details.

 

[777forever]

Summaries out. New ideas for all pilot groups, it's going to take a a while to digest and evaluate.

Deets! We want the Deets!!

 

[CptMurf]

Well... What do you guys think?!?

 

[higney85]

Well... What do you guys think?!?

While it may not be a "dream" contract I think it's pretty good. I think the big "problems" at each carrier have been fixed with this TA.

 

[RJLoser]

I think it's great. Payrates are better than I thought. (higher than ASA!)

 

[OCP]

75% DH pay..???? Why?

 

[Cpt Oveur]

75% DH pay..???? Why?

Cheaper than opening a base

 

[BoilerUP]

Cheaper than opening a base

...I think he meant why not 100% DH pay...

 

[flyboyike]

Also, don't think for one second that this is done somehow because of Mesaba. The company had a legitimate business need for a contract. Nothing more.

Clive Seal and Buddy Casey told me of that rather "urgent" business need in August of 2006. At that time you were sitting in the classroom next door, so I'm assuming they told you the same thing.

I suppose in the airline industry four years is urgent enough.

 

[Flyer1015]

I must admit, this is a good TA from what I've gathered from the executive summary.

 

[WayBack]

Well... What do you guys think?!?

I haven't seen anything yet, but heard from a couple of sources that there is two different pay scales for Colgan and Mesaba SF-340 pilots.
If true, why is that? Why are Mesaba pilots getting paid more than Colgan?

 

[OCP]

...I think he meant why not 100% DH pay...

Exactly! How do you settle for this?

 

[skyguy40]

Well... What do you guys think?!?

I was one that said mark my words...you'll see. And I meant that as you are wrong. I am glad to say, I was the one wrong. It looks pretty good to me so far. I give it a thumbs up.

 

[Jackie Moon]

must be really good since no one is posting any details.

 

[prtyprtyprncss]

Summary went out in an email from the MEC...should be in everyone's Inbox by now...overall, I'd say it's an improvement...the only ones who may be less than pleased will be the usual suspects...ones who partook of too much "ALPA-glory-we're gonna get it all-Kool-Aid" and the ones who are never happy with anything...I'll be voting "yes"...

 

[CptMurf]

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[GRAAB HIRBOUBI]

Read it twice now. I see nothing of this. Now the Q rates don't catch up to 200 CA rates till DOS+4. Is that what they are talking about?

There were two emails. One was put out by the XJ MEC and the other was put out by the JNC. One of them didn't have the pay scales. The one that DOES have the pay scales shows a "MESABA GRANDFATHERED" SAAB rate and another rate for SAAB.

It's been long stated that the Mesaba SAAB rates were the best in the world (I've always thought it was a myth but that's me). I think what happens is Colgan gets a pretty good raise and no one at Mesaba gets a cut.

 

[CptMurf]

There were two emails. One was put out by the XJ MEC and the other was put out by the JNC. One of them didn't have the pay scales. The one that DOES have the pay scales shows a "MESABA GRANDFATHERED" SAAB rate and another rate for SAAB.

It's been long stated that the Mesaba SAAB rates were the best in the world (I've always thought it was a myth but that's me). I think what happens is Colgan gets a pretty good raise and no one at Mesaba gets a cut.

Yeah didn't catch that. Just kept reading text version, which is why I deleted post. Got a call in to a rep to get the whole story there.

Personally, I don't like the carve outs, such as this. Or the no min day in bases with less than 25 crewmembers. It becomes too confusing, and we are all equal in this, so why carve out?!?

 

[Flyer1015]

Or the no min day in bases with less than 25 crewmembers.

That applies only to Saabs and excludes the 'big' bases (DTW, MSP, MEM, etc etc).