Organization Of Black Airline Pilots

[DoubtingThomas]

For the first time ever, if General Lee were to interject on this thread, it would be a definite step up.

Seems to me, the purpose of the thread, before it's massive de-railment, was to solicit the help of anyone who wants to go speak at inner-city schools.

Can anybody deny that black kids in America, and perhaps Detroit especially, need positive role-models to come talk to them and show that they care?

IMO the best scenario would be to have a black AND a white pilot go speak together. The reasons for this are obvious. Anyway, I'm a Michigan native and only a 3 hour drive from Detroit. I'd be interested in helping if I'm able.

P.S. RAH captain, (I know it's a regional OMG!), white guy...

 

[Tweaker]

_____My electric co-op magazine had a letter to the editor that claimed that all Americans are African Americans. Since the proponderance of scientific evidence has concluded that all modern humans descended from ancestors that originated in Africa, ALL AMERICANS ARE AFRICAN AMERICAN.
_____Good logic, works for me. Anyone wanna try that at their next interview?
_____Now let's all sing Koombaya, beeotches!:beer:

 

[John Pennekamp]

BBB:

If you character promotes colorless or color blindness then it wouldn't matter to you if a white guy or a black guy was requested....

Go to the inner city my man... your character is calling you.....

I'm still waiting for your PM, Rez. I'll meet with you and we'll go talk to the kids in Detroit together. Time to step up, little man. Send me the details.

 

[SUNDOWN]

I'll admit I didn't read this whole thread, but aren't like 98% of airline pilots white. Why do so may people feel threatend? Also if I understand it correctly, everyone is allowed too join OBAP and welcomed in with opened arms. To the pilots who want a white airline pilots assoc. That would be great but based on what need. Remember that for years pilots who were not white (women,minorities,etc) had a very hard time obtaining interviews and jobs due to the social structure at the time. Hence these organizations were created. Now that the enviorment is more equitable, there is a backlash against the names of these org's. It makes no sense that OBAP or any other org. change their name in order to assuage pilots who are ignorant of the true intent of these groups. It's kind of of a moot point anyway. Regionals are now giving signing bonuses to anyone willing to show up. My how times have changed.

 

[Skank]

I have no problem with OBAP, just want equal rights. Got a problem with that?

If you find yourself in a federal penitentiary there are some excellent groups you could join who would "represent" you.

 

[Foxcow]

I have no problem with OBAP, just want equal rights. Got a problem with that?

I hope this is a joke.

 

[SUNDOWN]

Al Sharpton would be calling for your head.......

I would rather have someone open their mouth to reveal their ignorance like Sharpton than to cloak it as an "honest mistake" for the sake of political ambition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd#Participation_in_the_Ku_Klux_Klan

 

[jke406]

I would rather have someone open their mouth to reveal their ignorance like Sharpton than to cloak it as an "honest mistake" for the sake of political ambition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd#Participation_in_the_Ku_Klux_Klan

Speaking of "ignorance," your signature fills that bill.

Thanks for the hypocrisy, though.

 

[ImRickJames]

Idiots

The greatest part of this whole thread is that it started as a simple question and flamed by those inividuals who are "so very concerned" about that discrimination of OBAP. First of all, you have just incriminated all the major and regional airlines because they have close ties to the organization. So whoever you work for, make sure you write your CEO and tell them you don't appreciate your employer associating with such a heinous organization.

Best of all, the typical "I know whats best for you" attitude, mostly displayed by either conservative or evangelical or so called christians. My guess is that you probably fit into one of these hypocritical groups. Try this on for size. Mind your own business and try running your own life and stop acting like you know what's best for everyone else or every other race.

You guys make me laugh. The Bush's and Huckabee's of this world. Round em up and put em in a circus! Oh yeah, did I mention mind your business! You guys are a funny bunch.

 

[737 Pylt]

Speaking of "ignorance," your signature fills that bill.

Thanks for the hypocrisy, though.

:laugh:
This coming from the same doosh posting as tanker clown!

Shouldn't you be getting your white mask to the dry cleaners?

737

 

[BOYCAPTAIN]

whoever goes to speak to these kids....BE CAREFUL!



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/18/national/main3518723.shtml

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Rez,

A famous saying loosely translated comes to mind:

It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

BBB

I thought the same of you...


Why are you threatened by black pilots visiting black kids in the inner city...

I'm still waiting for your PM, Rez. I'll meet with you and we'll go talk to the kids in Detroit together. Time to step up, little man. Send me the details.

Unless you are taller than 6'5" and 250lbs I doubt I'm smaller than you.....

How about spring time... the D is too cold ths time of year...

 

[JoeMerchant]

Trying to get poor kids interested in flying is a great idea.....

There are plenty of poor white kids in rural West Virginia......would it be OK to request a white pilot to speak to them, or would that be racist?

Racism works BOTH ways.....

 

[800Dog]

Trying to get poor kids interested in flying is a great idea.....

There are plenty of poor white kids in rural West Virginia......would it be OK to request a white pilot to speak to them, or would that be racist?

Racism works BOTH ways.....

Nothing wrong with starting the organization of white pilots association!

 

[JoeMerchant]

Nothing wrong with starting the organization of white pilots association!

I don't see the point in doing that, but if it was done, it would be considered racist.....Picking people because of race is wrong......be it white, black, brown, or yellow....

 

[bleagle]

Maybe we should start a professional mentoring association where both white and black pilots/professionals reach out to provide much needed mentorship to all our disadvantaged american youth.

How many of you webboard warriors be up for that..???

OR would you deny helping others and continue living your self-serving, self-centered lives?

 

[Big Beer Belly]

Maybe we should start a professional mentoring association where both white and black pilots/professionals reach out to provide much needed mentorship to all our disadvantaged american youth.

How about we just leave race out of it all together?

I utterly fail to see why this is such a difficult concept for some to understand.

BBB

 

[FLYLOW22]

My experience with OBAP...

Oh yeah. I remember OBAP.

During the interview at US Airways in 1999, several of the applicants fitting the "profile" received welcome (gouge) packets courtesy of US Airways and OBAP. Sim profiles, interview questions, etc.

Me... Nothing.

I still got hired, on my own using my own networking and prep work. I just wonder why the OBAP kids needed a helping hand from Capt'n Lonnie Robinson and OBAP to make it though the same interview.

Always wondered about this... never sat well with me. There are so many ways to pick this issue apart but I'll leave it with the fact that a pilot position should be filled by the best qualified of applicants... not the best of each quota to be filled as determined by the EEOC.

EEOC knows nothing about flying a Cat III, airframe icing or how to calculate holding fuel. I'd rather have the highest high time most experienced crew members up front when I ride in the back.

Oh who am I kidding.... pilot shortage. The airlines are lucky to find anyone who wants this as a career anymore; red, white, blue yellow, black, Puerto Rican or otherwise.

I'm all for OBAP generating interest in pilot IN GENERAL. Not just for black kids. There are plenty of poor latino kids and white kids and asian kids at those schools OBAP goes to.

The pilot profession is divided enough and the only colors that pilots need to know about is white an blue.

White is the color of the collar that management wears. Blue is your color.

Green? That's what the white wants to keep from the blue as much as possible.

 

[Big Beer Belly]

Unless you are taller than 6'5" and 250lbs I doubt I'm smaller than you.....

Rez... push yourself back from the buffet table amigo!

BBB

 

[Reebo]

Oh yeah. I remember OBAP.

During the interview at US Airways in 1999, several of the applicants fitting the "profile" received welcome (gouge) packets courtesy of US Airways and OBAP. Sim profiles, interview questions, etc.

Me... Nothing.

Did you do a interview prep?

Previous Millitary?

Will Fly for Food?

Air Inc?

All of the above will provide the same info the OBAP guys had. Where do you think they got the idea from?