Open letter to Skyboss

[Skyboss]

Kind of like a Fire Fighter then??? Or a cop??? I would venture to say that the probablity of them having everything go wrong is significantly higher than that of a Pilot. All for a salary less than 1/4 that of a Pilot.

That pretty much sucks.

 

[Whirlwind]

Kind of like a Fire Fighter then??? Or a cop??? I would venture to say that the probablity of them having everything go wrong is significantly higher than that of a Pilot. All for a salary less than 1/4 that of a Pilot.

That pretty much sucks.

I don't have any personal experience with airline flying, but from talking to various people who do, I've learned that it isn't the daily work that makes pilots worth good pay, it is when something breaks or goes wrong.

I can recall several crashes where pax survived due to the heroic actions of the pilots, when otherwise everyone would have died.

You pay experienced pilots good money so that when something does go wrong, they have a better chance of fixing it than if you stuck some inexperienced kid up front.

I may only have 400 hours, but I can tell you that when I had 100 hours, I thought much like you did, "gee, how hard is this flying, anyone can do it, why do I need thousands of hours".

Now I know better, because as I've flown more, I've started to understand how much there is to learn.

Fly safe!

 

[Mr Freeze]

skyboss

Just a few more acronyms for you to figure out. You did well on a previous post. Let's see how you do with these.





GR
OWU
PA
NDG
ETA
LI
FE

 

[banned username 2]

GR
OWU
PA
NDG
ETA
LI
FE

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now THAT is funny!

Just like most of Skyboss's rantings and BS!

 

[Citationkid]

Man, if only I had gotten to fly a jet when I was 14. The biggest thing I flew then was straight and level in my uncle's old beater 182.

You know what? I have no doubt that a few kids out there get to do this, and you may well be one of them. The only thing I'd suggest is that you not reveal who it is that your mom works for, you might get her into trouble by posting here that she lets you fly, even if with her.

Btw, we've got one customer here who's son got his private helicopter ticket a few months ago, and his fixed-wing ticket last year on his 17th birthday. He is working on his commercial in both the helicopter and CFI and plans to take both checkrides on his 18th birthday.

When I was 18, I was too busy chasing girls to do all this cool stuff!

Fly safe!

Yeah I went back and changed a lot of stuff. I never really thought about the stuff I was saying and now I feel pretty stupid.

 

[HAZ-MAT]

hahah, i know what it says, but i gotta be a smart ass and beat him too it...

Ground Return
Ottawa (airport id)
Pressure Altitude
Non Directional Gyro
Estimated Time Enroute
Light Icing
Flight Engineer

Cheers

 

[Typhoon1244]

VER
YCLE
VER

 

[Whirlwind]

Yeah I went back and changed a lot of stuff. I never really thought about the stuff I was saying and now I feel pretty stupid.

Hey, don't sweat it, we've all done dumb things (myself included) online.

The key is to take your lumps, and move on without dragging it through the mud.

Fly safe, and tell your Mom you love her!

 

[Typhoon1244]

Folks, it's just possible that Skyboss is what he says he is...well, not entirely. I don't believe he's God's gift to aviation.

I think it's likely, however, that he is an Airport Management major who is now on staff at a large field. Whether consciously or unconsciously, he has come to believe that this makes him an expert on aviation. It doesn't, no more than being the captain of an R.J. makes me an expert on aviation.

It takes a great deal of education and study for someone to succeed in airport management. Over time, they develop the impression that the same is not true for pilots. To them, flying isn't a profession. It's a trade, like driving a bus. All it takes are good reflexes, reasonable hand-eye coordination, and good vision. We pilots tend to see airport management types as egg-headed theorists. Accountants with delusions of grandeur, and no knowledge of how the real world works.

We'll never fully understand Skyboss and his ideas, and he'll never understand ours. And this forum certainly hasn't helped. If anything, it's demonstrated just how clueless we are about each others' fields.

Any of us would probably sound just as foolish on a web-board for airport/airline managers...particularly if we approached it with the same level of arrogance: "any airport manager who makes more than $50K/year is overpaid...and Maglev trains will make them irrelevant."

(Note: ABC news reported that just building the track for a hypothetical maglev train will cost about $38 million per mile.)

One last thing. Are "Skyboss" and "Secks" the same person?

 

[banned username 2]

Are "Skyboss" and "Secks" the same person?

Doesn't appear to be, based on the IP address.

 

[Snoopy58]

Typhoon wrote

If anything, it's demonstrated just how clueless we are about each others' fields.

I'd suggest that this is very little an Airport Manager/Pilot disconnect. I think the root of the cause is a guy who comes here, writes about 100 posts in his first day or 2 on this forum, hijacks threads off into wildly off-topic ideas, and posts something (frequently something inflamatory) on most of the active threads. Then has the nerve to go back & delete much of what he wrote, including threads that had considerable discussion of HIS ideas (maglev & pilot pay, for example).

The problem isn't that he's in airport management. The problem isn't that he has some ideas that many of us don't agree with. The problem is an immature need to be the center of all attention, injecting himself into almost every thread, and accumulating as many posts in a couple days as most of the contributors here write in weeks if not months.

THAT, imho, is the real problem.

 

[skootertrash]

Hey, don't sweat it, we've all done dumb things (myself included) online.

The key is to take your lumps, and move on without dragging it through the mud.

Listen to this man HE KNOWS!!!!

 

[KickSave]

"any airport manager who makes more than $50K/year is overpaid...and Maglev trains will make them irrelevant."

(Note: ABC news reported that just building the track for a hypothetical maglev train will cost about $38 million per mile.)

I've been considering getting my Maglev ratings. Does anyone know if Key Bank offers a loan to get into this industry? I hear there is going to be a shortage of Maglev pilots(engineers?) really soon. I wanna be there when the hiring crunch starts

 

[Skyboss]

Considering it's a "turnkey" product (computer operated - no driver)... You can watch.

 

[saabtrash]

Hey skyboss, why don't you shut your face. I make 25k a year. Eat it pal...

I'm pretty sure there are plenty of pilots who aren't only under-paid, but one step beyond that...it's called poverty.

Mother #%$&*@

 

[banned username 2]

I've been considering getting my Maglev ratings. Does anyone know if Key Bank offers a loan to get into this industry? I hear there is going to be a shortage of Maglev pilots(engineers?) really soon. I wanna be there when the hiring crunch starts

Maglev's Manipulators are all going to be PFT positions. As a matter of fact you will be paid a negative salary (you have to pay for the honor to operate one of these wonderful devices).

Sorry, blame Skyboss, it's the way management thinks it should be...

 

[bobbysamd]

Maglev

Maglev's Manipulators are all going to be PFT positions. As a matter of fact you will be paid a negative salary (you have to pay for the honor to operate one of these wonderful devices).

Isn't a Maglev some new Russian or Hungarian equipment? Something like a Mil or Antonov?

At least there will be jobs. Most Russian transport-category aircraft I've read about have something like five crew positions; captain, FO, FE, navigator, and radio operator. Would ALPA have a field day fending off accusations of featherbedding?

Oh, well, time to learn how to read Cyrillic.

 

[enigma]

Re: Maglev

Isn't a Maglev some new Russian or Hungarian equipment? Something like a Mil or Antonov?

At least there will be jobs. Most Russian transport-category aircraft I've read about have something like five crew positions; captain, FO, FE, navigator, and radio operator. Would ALPA have a field day fending off accusations of featherbedding?

Oh, well, time to learn how to read Cyrillic.

Actually, I believe that Maglev is the technical name of an antigravity substance invented by a Medfield College, professor in 1961. He used it to power a unique 1917 Ford T touring car.

Only one operator per car is needed, so no featherbedding will be necessary because the car only carries the operator plus three pax.

The car did posses "flying" qualities, but did not require runways, so no airport managers are necessary. (I'm beginning to wish that this wasn't mostly a figment of my imagination )

regards,
enigma

 

[KickSave]

Maglev's Manipulators are all going to be PFT positions. As a matter of fact you will be paid a negative salary (you have to pay for the honor to operate one of these wonderful devices).

Sorry, blame Skyboss, it's the way management thinks it should be...

I'm sorry, I don't think there is anything wrong with PFTing your way to a cushy Maglev right seat. It's all about the seniority, right? I want to be at the forefront. A leader. In fact, I intend to start a new web site... the MagLev Defense Consortium. We've got to preserve our future! Who's with me?????




*running out the door like Bluto in Animal House*

 

[WrightAvia]

Consortium?

Definition 3, may just fit the professional aviation community...but don't get em started with that stuff in the Maglev train industry. Maybe "The International Brotherhood of Maglev Train Operating Engineers" would work.

Main Entry: con·sor·tium
Pronunciation: k&n-'sor-sh(E-)&m, -'sor-tE-&m
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural con·sor·tia /-'sor-sh(E-)&, -'sor-tE-&/; also -sortiums
Etymology: Latin, fellowship, from consort-, consors
Date: 1829
1 : an agreement, combination, or group (as of companies) formed to undertake an enterprise beyond the resources of any one member
2 : ASSOCIATION, SOCIETY
3 : the legal right of one spouse to the company, affection, and assistance of and to sexual relations with the other.