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Ok ALPA WTF

701EV

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I try to log onto ALPA site and guess what BAD STANDING! I'm guessing it's over $ 7 dollars and change. This is the second time. I'm still missing my first two checks. One check gets lost ok but two checks something smells!

Now here is what pisses me off. As I look at My ALPA their are options

Member Standing
You are currently in GOOD standing.
You are currently in GOOD standing with a balance.
You are currently in BAD standing.

Why not GOOD standing with a balance.

Unbelievable!

Total BS!

701EV
 

mynameisjim

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I went in to bad standing and received a brightly colored envelope threatening termination because of a $25 insurance premium payment.

I thought I had insurance check-off and it turned out I didn't.
 

PA44Jockey

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They won't terminate you. I quit the airlines and requested to be terminated and it took 4 months to finally get them to close my account. They just wouldn't do it.
 

JoeMerchant

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I try to log onto ALPA site and guess what BAD STANDING! I'm guessing it's over $ 7 dollars and change. This is the second time. I'm still missing my first two checks. One check gets lost ok but two checks something smells!

Now here is what pisses me off. As I look at My ALPA their are options

Member Standing
You are currently in GOOD standing.
You are currently in GOOD standing with a balance.
You are currently in BAD standing.

Why not GOOD standing with a balance.

Unbelievable!

Total BS!

701EV

ALPA expelled me and it feels great! 1 month AFTER I got expelled....they sent me my 15 year pin....ALPA makes the Obama administration look competent....
 

701EV

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Joe,

Why am I not surprised!

You gotta love it.

701EV
 

79%N1

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I'm expelled, too! I guess I can't keep up on how many dang $8 checks I have to send in.
 

SiuDude

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They won't terminate you. I quit the airlines and requested to be terminated and it took 4 months to finally get them to close my account. They just wouldn't do it.

You know that "terminated" means fired, right?
 

JoeMerchant

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It's about damned time.

ALPA is so incompetent. They sent me a 15 year pin a full month after they expelled me. 2 months after they expelled me, they still send me the magazine. They now owe me money because they have still been charging me full dues, rather than just the contract maintence fee....

ALPA can't get anything right these days....much like your beloved Obama administration...

I wonder why ALPA hasn't tried to fire anyone yet over this....They could under the Agency Shop language that I helped negotiate.
 
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JoeMerchant

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By the way PCL_128...The guy who started this thread is an ALPA volunteer and one of the nicest guys you've ever met....He isn't an anti-ALPA loudmouth like me. He paid his assessment and they "lost" his check and put him on bad standing. Not just once...but twice...Great customer service...You and the rest of the ALPA cheerleaders would give management hell for acting this incompetent.

ALPA volunteers getting put in bad standing for 7 bucks that ALPA lost....What a joke!

One of the biggest mistakes I ever made was negotiating the Agency Shop language at ASA....
 
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CFI2766

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One of the biggest mistakes I ever made was negotiating the Agency Shop language at ASA....[/QUOTE]


Serious, not flame, question: What changed, Joe?

At one point, you cared about ALPA, I think you were even elected as an officer in the association, and seemed to have been motivated. Now, you are one of the most vitriolic haters of ALPA around. Was it one thing, a series of things, what? Did ALPA change? Did you change? What happened?
 

Flybywire44

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I try to log onto ALPA site and guess what BAD STANDING! I'm guessing it's over $ 7 dollars and change. This is the second time. I'm still missing my first two checks. One check gets lost ok but two checks something smells!

Now here is what pisses me off. As I look at My ALPA their are options

Member Standing
You are currently in GOOD standing.
You are currently in GOOD standing with a balance.
You are currently in BAD standing.

Why not GOOD standing with a balance.

Unbelievable!

Total BS!

701EV

Its not like they're reporting you to the credit bureau... The membership means nothing unless you sexually harass someone and need ALPA protection or if you file and insurance claim on short, long or life insurance.
 

701EV

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Its not like they're reporting you to the credit bureau... The membership means nothing unless you sexually harass someone and need ALPA protection or if you file and insurance claim on short, long or life insurance.

Your joking RIGHT!

It means nothing?


701EV
 

BUDDHA145

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I try to log onto ALPA site and guess what BAD STANDING! I'm guessing it's over $ 7 dollars and change. This is the second time. I'm still missing my first two checks. One check gets lost ok but two checks something smells!

Now here is what pisses me off. As I look at My ALPA their are options

Member Standing
You are currently in GOOD standing.
You are currently in GOOD standing with a balance.
You are currently in BAD standing.

Why not GOOD standing with a balance.

Unbelievable!

Total BS!

701EV

they are all the same, just looking for them self!!! teamsters did it to me for like $15 FN dollars!! but the it could be worst!! they could knock in your door and take it straigh to your knee caps!!!!
 

DGdaPilot

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Serious, not flame, question: What changed, Joe?

At one point, you cared about ALPA, I think you were even elected as an officer in the association, and seemed to have been motivated. Now, you are one of the most vitriolic haters of ALPA around. Was it one thing, a series of things, what? Did ALPA change? Did you change? What happened?

He's like GM at Eagle. Some of 'em just seem to fall off their rocker.
 

Jack-O-Lantern

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One of the biggest mistakes I ever made was negotiating the Agency Shop language at ASA....


Serious, not flame, question: What changed, Joe?

At one point, you cared about ALPA, I think you were even elected as an officer in the association, and seemed to have been motivated. Now, you are one of the most vitriolic haters of ALPA around. Was it one thing, a series of things, what? Did ALPA change? Did you change? What happened?[/QUOTE]

Wow! You must be new here.If and when Joe does reply to this, you better grab a cooler and pull up a chair. LOL.
I will say, it will all be valid though.Not trying to bust your balls, I just got a chuckle out of that one.
 

Cobraair75drvr

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I will take a stab at it. JB had a wild dream that because he was in the same union as Delta and then his company was made a subsidiary that he and his cohorts should have a spot on the Delta seniority list. Dalpa disagreed and some of the yahoos formed the rjdc. Whether JB was part of that or not is not the point. His loud mouth got him forever blackballed at Delta, and for that matter most majors due to his direct/inderect involvement with the rjdc. Now he is senior at a sub-contractor and bitter about what could have been. Had he not been such a loud mouth, he could have easily moved to Delta in 2007-2008 timeframe like ACL. ACL played it smart, plugged along, kept his ear to the ground and got hired. Now it is ALPAs fault JBs career did not turn out as planned.





Serious, not flame, question: What changed, Joe?

At one point, you cared about ALPA, I think you were even elected as an officer in the association, and seemed to have been motivated. Now, you are one of the most vitriolic haters of ALPA around. Was it one thing, a series of things, what? Did ALPA change? Did you change? What happened?

Wow! You must be new here.If and when Joe does reply to this, you better grab a cooler and pull up a chair. LOL.
I will say, it will all be valid though.Not trying to bust your balls, I just got a chuckle out of that one.[/QUOTE]
 

Flybywire44

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Your joking RIGHT!

It means nothing?


701EV

Well every membership does give ALPA more lobbying power. I did not mean to be offensive. ALPA does a great job negotiating our contracts, filing grievances and fighting for safety. ASA has one of the best ALPA unions out there. In the last three years QOL at ASA has improved greatly.

But yes, the membership in itself seems like an illusion when ALPA revokes it over 7 dollars and instantly gives membership status back once outstanding debt is serviced... very disillusioning.
 
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