NJ Recalls

[flagshipper]

Bail pilots out when they get dui's. Sort of like a training contract. We bail you out and you fly rubber dog poop to Mexico for a year. And do reverse college reimbursement. Pay them 2 grand a year to not go to college.

Back on topic. They have sent out 105 first time recalls for the Sept 2 class and they may not have the 32 they wanted but they are out of time

 

[pilotyip]

Bail pilots out when they get dui's.

that was actually suggested until they were told these guys cannot fly into Canada on CANPASS. We are now actually recruiting college grads who can get their restricted ATP at 1000 hrs. But this candidate has many options so I have not seen one of yet.

 

[nordo_2]

that was actually suggested until they were told these guys cannot fly into Canada on CANPASS. We are now actually recruiting college grads who can get their restricted ATP at 1000 hrs. But this candidate has many options so I have not seen one of yet.

Because college degreed pilots make for better aviators. Which is what the military has proven as of late.

 

[pilotyip]

Because college degreed pilots make for better aviators. Which is what the military has proven as of late.

right keep smoking that funny stuff, flew with those non-degreed guys in Vietnam, they were awful good would take any one of them over some of the degreed guys we have hired.

 

[gunfyter]

All the military cares about is Attrition rates. Because the training is expensive and attrition costs a lot of money.

They train thousands every year and lower attrition rates save millions of dollars. College degree = lower attrition from training command. GPA doesn't matter that much but ATSB scores do. NAMI has the stats and studies on this.

 

[pilotyip]

All the military cares about is Attrition rates. Because the training is expensive and attrition costs a lot of money.

They train thousands every year and lower attrition rates save millions of dollars. College degree = lower attrition from training command. GPA doesn't matter that much but ATSB scores do. NAMI has the stats and studies on this.

Yes and back in the day non degrees guys passed those tests and degreed guys did not. Neil Armstrong was a non degreed Navy pilot I think he did ok

 

[outerfix]

Neil Armstrong had a degree in engineering and was a college professor after his gig at NASA. You may be thinking of Chuck Yeager, a lesser man in every respect.

 

[pilotyip]

Neil Armstrong had a degree in engineering and was a college professor after his gig at NASA. You may be thinking of Chuck Yeager, a lesser man in every respect.

No I am thinking of Neil Armstrong. He was flying jets off of carriers during Korea without his college degree Check it out

 

[outerfix]

I don't have a dog in this fight and to a certain extent I agree with you but I think you are being a bit disingenuous. You are comparing someone who didn't bother to finish college to someone who was accepted to MIT and was in college at Purdue when the war broke out. Armstrong left college to serve in the war and then finished up when he returned and eventually earned a masters degree in aeronautical engineering. No comparison. I would argue that his success was due in a large part to his education as his most notable achievements occurred after he earned his degree. The fact is that it's the airlines sandbox and they set the rules so you can argue your point till your blue in the face, won't change a thing.

 

[outerfix]

Major thread drift. My bad.

 

[jonjuan]

I don't have a dog in this fight and to a certain extent I agree with you but I think you are being a bit disingenuous. You are comparing someone who didn't bother to finish college to someone who was accepted to MIT and was in college at Purdue when the war broke out. Armstrong left college to serve in the war and then finished up when he returned and eventually earned a masters degree in aeronautical engineering. No comparison. I would argue that his success was due in a large part to his education as his most notable achievements occurred after he earned his degree. The fact is that it's the airlines sandbox and they set the rules so you can argue your point till your blue in the face, won't change a thing.

Bingo-Armstrong had the smarts and motivation to start college before he flew off carriers. Those who don't typically struggle as pilots.

 

[johnsonrod]

Spoke with a repositioning Netjets XL pilot last night on my flight. Said he was exhausted on every tour lately. Obviously the XL fleet is a workhorse fleet - are there other fleets that don't work so hard comparatively? He mentioned the Sovereign also works very hard recovering for broken Xs and G200s... Are all fleets under crewed and stretched?

BTW, when can we expect to see the new Latitude on the line? Is it basically an XL replacement? How many ordered?

 

[jetlag7]

Spoke with a repositioning Netjets XL pilot last night on my flight. Said he was exhausted on every tour lately. Obviously the XL fleet is a workhorse fleet - are there other fleets that don't work so hard comparatively? He mentioned the Sovereign also works very hard recovering for broken Xs and G200s... Are all fleets under crewed and stretched?

BTW, when can we expect to see the new Latitude on the line? Is it basically an XL replacement? How many ordered?

Just about every fleet is working their tail off..... the XL, Sovereign, and X are feeling most of the "love" while the G200 is currently the company "hangar queen."

Funny he lumped the X in with the G200... the X has had higher dispatch reliability numbers than the XL for some time now.....

The Latitude is expected to show up sometime around 2016. Presently, there are 25 firm orders with 125 options.

 

[pilotyip]

Bingo-Armstrong had the smarts and motivation to start college before he flew off carriers. Those who don't typically struggle as pilots.

Hold it you mean Armstrong gets credit for some college making him a good pilot? I thought if you didn't have a four year degree you were not capable of being accepted as a good pilot. This college degree thing on FI is an all or nothing counts thing. Although I know it has nothing to do with flying an airplane
BTW. All those Navcad pilots I flew with in the 60s had two year of college and they were all exceptional sticks. They were hired at majors without degrees

 

[rajflyboy]

I'm going to tell you what you need to hear and not what you want to hear:


Going to College has absolutely nothing to do with how well some one can fly an airplane!