NJ Recalls

[dudemize]

Us furloughees just got a recall update from the Union President.

"All signs indicate a recall timeline is unlikely to take shape in the next three to five years"

Not that I have any desire to go back anyway!

 

[G4dude]

G4, what struck me about your previous comment was the inherent resignation that NJA will not be competitive in maintaining its pilot talent with legacy hiring increasing in the near term. This certainly doesn't have to be. Collectively, as a private sector association, we have the leverage to seek enhancements that would provide industry leading compensation. To achieve this, we will need the assistance of the entire group including the GLC folks. NJA can be very successful while still providing an industry leading agreement for its pilots.

I want good compensation. I don't want compensation that is significantly above industry standards, because I want my company to stay in business my friends and I can keep our jobs. I definitely don't want enhanced compensation right now. We are way above our competition, which is worrisome. The pilots we lose to the majors will be easily and joyfully replaced with good newbies. Welcome aboard!

 

[imacdog]

So you want a pay cut. Nice.

 

[OPECJet]

No. They won't be replaced with gleeful newbies. They'll be replaced with jaded, pissed off furloughed pilots. The company has made sure of that.

 

[pilotyip]

No. They won't be replaced with gleeful newbies. They'll be replaced with jaded, pissed off furloughed pilots. The company has made sure of that.

not the four from JUS, going back to NJ would be like wining the lotto

 

[imacdog]

JUS must really suck. To come back to the bottom of a list that you were at 5-10 years ago is far from career progression.

 

[pilotyip]

JUS must really suck. To come back to the bottom of a list that you were at 5-10 years ago is far from career progression.

And when NJ makes you unemployed in a recession, and you are offered a job at anyplace, well you have to take what you can get.

No one has ever said that working in the 135 on-demand business is a place where you said "This is as good as it gets". However few pilots spend as much time at as a JUS guy who lives within 30 minutes of KYIP, maybe gone 5 days a month from home

Yes our QOL does sux, we even start out our company orientation with that side, if a pilot has specific idea of QOL that do not match JUS, then that pilot should not apply of a job at JUS. As far as work rules goes, everything ins writing, pilot policy handbook is issued to every pilot defining work rules, JUS ensures all pilot are home on their hard days off, no assigned working on days off, unless of course you want to break $100K by selling days off once you make Capt. But it is up to the pilot. Bidding for seats is defined, seniority is followed, never hired a Ca off the street since 1998. We love it when our pilot s move on to career jobs at SWA, FedEx, UPS, AT, JB, NJ etc But you have to go someplace to pay dues, and we think we are the best of the bottom feeders.

All that being said, you to go some where to build the resume fluff to get you to the next job. It is called paying your dues everyone must do it. Some do it in the military, some do it at the regionals, and some do in the on-demand business. Everyone pays his or her dues.

 

[jegermeister]

It is called paying your dues everyone must do it. Some do it in the military, some do it at the regionals, and some do in the on-demand business. Everyone pays his or her dues.

After 20 years of paying my dues (military, regional, 91k, and 135), I'm tired of paying my dues.

 

[pilotyip]

After 20 years of paying my dues (military, regional, 91k, and 135), I'm tired of paying my dues.

Welcome to the club, 50 years in this business, military, 4 121 airlines, 2-135, 1 part 91 Corp and a part 125 fly by night, paid all the due you can name, but never made the "Show"

You make those career choices based on the best information available at the time and live with your choices.

All that being said I have had a ball and the decision after leaving the Navy in 1977 to drop out of the MBA program at Univ of Mich to pursue a flying career was one of those faithful decisions.

 

[gret]

Welcome to the club, 50 years in this business, military, 4 121 airlines, 2-135, 1 part 91 Corp and a part 125 fly by night, paid all the due you can name, but never made the "Show"

You make those career choices based on the best information available at the time and live with your choices.

All that being said I have had a ball and the decision after leaving the Navy in 1977 to drop out of the MBA program at Univ of Mich to pursue a flying career was one of those faithful decisions.

I would have stayed with the MBA program. You would probably be a zillionaire now. Great business school.

I graduated from another Big 10 school a couple of years earlier.

Everyone has to pay their dues...nobody likes it...but necessary...except certain dues which we won't discuss because some are forced to pay them....