NetJets

[-FlyAuburn-]

She doesn't have a shred of respect or even take the time to recognize those that made other career choices.

I don't see how that's fair. She is married to an NJA pilot so her viewpoints are quite naturally going to aligned with the pilot group. I don't think from reading her posts that she is being or has been disrespectful about other people's career choices. She's just speaking honestly from the perspective of someone who has been married to a pilot for a long time and had to deal with what it is like to be subject to the roller coaster that is the aviation industry.

 

[captain dad]

The same as a three inch long 3/4" wrench.

A USELESS TOOL!:laugh:

 

[netjetwife]

CD, you nailed it! The word-twister's credibility is as low as a snake's belly and his attacks reek of desperation akin to a union-buster losing his bonus. 'Auburn, well said and every word is true. I also look forward to going to CMH someday and touring the Company. I've heard it's a fascinating place. Thanks for the gracious post on my behalf!

Frac friends, the word-twisting, fudspinner is trying to stuff his words down my throat. I refuse to allow him to do that to me. Requesting your patience, I'd like to highlight references in my post that have been twisted into something they're not while reality is conveniently ignored by the one with an agenda.

.....Talking about the shift in attitudes as they started to happen... Those who follow along closely know full well that I was referring to the changed relationship between pilots and management. I presented the shift as a positive development. Explaining that IBB was good for the pilotgroup... The frac community knows that the NJA pilots and management voluntarily sat down together 3 years early to improve the 2005 contract for the benefit of all. For what it's worth guys, nothing on CD's list surprises me; the joint committees have been busy. I clearly gave credit to other employees in CMH for the recent successes and those on the drawing board now. When you consider how far the total group has come since 2004, it's easy to be optimistic about the future. By definition "total" includes everyone involved and my next sentence confirmed that. Surely the above mentioned track record has earned a show of faith in both Company and Union leadership? I made a bid for pilots to trust management. I could not have been more respectful than that considering that trust is the foundation of every good relationship. It should also serve as a reminder that the NJ pilots (and their families) are capable of making positive changes in the industry. I routinely show respect for pilots' families and give them the credit they deserve which is far more than B19 does. Lying hypocrites should be first in line to get the boot.

Thanks for the camaraderie and support,
Netjetwife

 

[B19 Flyer]

CD, you nailed it! The word-twister's credibility is as low as a snake's belly and his attacks reek of desperation akin to a union-buster losing his bonus. 'Auburn, well said and every word is true. I also look forward to going to CMH someday and touring the Company. I've heard it's a fascinating place. Thanks for the gracious post on my behalf!

Frac friends, the word-twisting, fudspinner is trying to stuff his words down my throat. I refuse to allow him to do that to me. Requesting your patience, I'd like to highlight references in my post that have been twisted into something they're not while reality is conveniently ignored by the one with an agenda.

.....Talking about the shift in attitudes as they started to happen... Those who follow along closely know full well that I was referring to the changed relationship between pilots and management. I presented the shift as a positive development. Explaining that IBB was good for the pilotgroup... The frac community knows that the NJA pilots and management voluntarily sat down together 3 years early to improve the 2005 contract for the benefit of all. For what it's worth guys, nothing on CD's list surprises me; the joint committees have been busy. I clearly gave credit to other employees in CMH for the recent successes and those on the drawing board now. When you consider how far the total group has come since 2004, it's easy to be optimistic about the future. By definition "total" includes everyone involved and my next sentence confirmed that. Surely the above mentioned track record has earned a show of faith in both Company and Union leadership? I made a bid for pilots to trust management. I could not have been more respectful than that considering that trust is the foundation of every good relationship. It should also serve as a reminder that the NJ pilots (and their families) are capable of making positive changes in the industry. I routinely show respect for pilots' families and give them the credit they deserve which is far more than B19 does. Lying hypocrites should be first in line to get the boot.

Thanks for the camaraderie and support,
Netjetwife

There isn't any word twisting.

Post after post with you is the same thing. Never, unless I point it out, do you ever show any respect for the employees that chose other career paths.

You clearly have stated on these boards that other employees could have chosen to "invest" in their careers to be pilots but didn't, thus they are not entitled to an appropriate share of the payroll bucket.

You consistantly are insulting and disrespectful by ignoring the fact that the very airplane your husband flies when he is not busy volunteering for pay doing union business is scheduled, repaired, maintained, dispatched and completely supported by non-pilots that are equally as passionate about what they do as your husband is at what he does.

Without these people, not a single airplane would fly. Of course that wouldn't prevent a paycheck from coming into your home, as your husband gets paid to volunteer doing union chores.

Remember that Hitler wore black boots, and he thought he was doing the right thing too.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Of course that wouldn't prevent a paycheck from coming into your home, as your husband gets paid to volunteer doing union chores.

Gotta love projection. Substitute husband for yourself, and F&H for union, and there you have it. Carl Jung thanks you for being you.

 

[B19 Flyer]

I don't see how that's fair. She is married to an NJA pilot so her viewpoints are quite naturally going to aligned with the pilot group. I don't think from reading her posts that she is being or has been disrespectful about other people's career choices. She's just speaking honestly from the perspective of someone who has been married to a pilot for a long time and had to deal with what it is like to be subject to the roller coaster that is the aviation industry.

On a different thread she made the statement that others had the opportunity to "invest" in their careers but chose otherwise. When she writes candidly and not trying to dig herself out of the hole she's dug with her words, it's clearly the union against the rest of the company.

When I point these statements of disrespect out, she states that I twist words.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

She stated that FLOPS pilots must "win" a contract. It showed the adversarial opinion of union propaganda. In my opinion, as 1108 is on the property, they must negotiate a contract, because it's all about fairness. With NJW it's all about winning and losing. All I did was point out what she stated, and suddenly I'm twisting words.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

She continually talks about her husband "volunteering", yet admits he gets a stipend.

I don't know about you, but to me he's getting paid, and any time I've volunteered for a project, I didn't expect to get paid.

These are only three of many statements she has carelessly made showing how she spits out union propaganda.

THere is no word twist, nor is there a shred of Fear Uncertainty or Doubt in this post.

All I have done is point out that her attitude is not healthy for the industry. It's all about winning and losing.

 

[fischman]

Looks like someone doesn't like losing.

I smell fear... Time to go in for the kill.

 

[ozpilot]

Remember that Hitler wore black boots, and he thought he was doing the right thing too.

You've hit a new low B19. That comment was completely uncalled for. You owe NJW an apology.

 

[Hawker dude]

Without these people, not a single airplane wo, fly.

B19, after reading your qoute above I am starting to think you are not a pilot yourself.

most people get a job to get a job, most pilots get a job flying because the love to fly.

 

[theskyking]

B19's fixation

I don't know about you guys, but his fixation with NJW is kind of scary. It seems he can't post anything without referring to her. Almost like he is stalking.

Wouldn't surprise me if he has pictures of her boots spread throughout his lair. Or maybe he's sitting there wearing some himself. It's kind of like he has to suppress his dirty little thoughts about her with this drummed up anger and self-righteousness.

Gives me the willies thinking about what he's doing while he's sitting there pounding away on the keyboard. Make it stop...

 

[flyjetspeed]

There isn't any word twisting.

Post after post with you is the same thing. Never, unless I point it out, do you ever show any respect for the employees that chose other career paths.

You clearly have stated on these boards that other employees could have chosen to "invest" in their careers to be pilots but didn't, thus they are not entitled to an appropriate share of the payroll bucket.

You consistantly are insulting and disrespectful by ignoring the fact that the very airplane your husband flies when he is not busy volunteering for pay doing union business is scheduled, repaired, maintained, dispatched and completely supported by non-pilots that are equally as passionate about what they do as your husband is at what he does.

Without these people, not a single airplane would fly. Of course that wouldn't prevent a paycheck from coming into your home, as your husband gets paid to volunteer doing union chores.

Remember that Hitler wore black boots, and he thought he was doing the right thing too.

Congradulations B19, you just made it onto my ignore list! Sen Loy MF

 

[acaTerry]

ARRRGH me hearties! Let's Keel Haul him!!!
B19 you, ah forget it, what's the point? Like talking to the rear end of a horse. Wait, that IS B19.

 

[netjetwife]

You've hit a new low B19. That comment was completely uncalled for. You owe NJW an apology.

Thanks, Oz. That's the second time he has said that. Disgusting beyond belief. Suffice it to say, that his true colors are showing with every handful of FUD he flings. Experts in detection of deception (I had a class from one of the best, Stan B Walters) report that fully 90% or greater of deception is found in denial. B19 denies reality and he denies that he twists words and spouts FUD in the very posts where both are obvious to all who read his self-serving, agenda driven, rants. My history of fair and honest posting here proves I'm respectful to all and have always encouraged every worker to stand up for their rights. In sharp contrast, the word-twisting fudflinger likens me to Hitler.... That desperate deed speaks volumes. The guilty typically try to discredit their accusers as they run from the truth. Those boots have hit a nerve fellas...

There's a poisonous word-twister slithering among the posts. Pull on your boots and arm yourself with the truth!!

 

[netjetwife]

I don't know about you guys, but his fixation with NJW is kind of scary. We have inborn warning systems (instincts) that tell us when a situation is abnormal. Yours are clearly working. It seems he can't post anything without referring to her. And I can't post anything without him smearing his slime all over my words. Almost like he is stalking. Good call. It does feel that way, and his mention of Hitler supports your finding. One has to ask why he is thinking of death, destruction, etc and posting about me. Sick.

Wouldn't surprise me if he has pictures of her boots spread throughout his lair. Or maybe he's sitting there wearing some himself. It's kind of like he has to suppress his dirty little thoughts about her with this drummed up anger and self-righteousness. Very perceptive Sky! Experts teach us that projection is common among the guilty and their statements often give them away. (I had a class in statement analysis, too.) Note that B19 claims that I'm "unhealthy". I leave it to the readers to decide what reality is, and who is the one with the unhealthy fixation.

Gives me the willies thinking about what he's doing while he's sitting there pounding away on the keyboard. Make it stop...

The closer you get to a contract and the more unity you display, the uglier and louder your enemies become. It's a classic case of union-busting, fud-spreading behavior that has crossed the line. The Options pilots' are justified in their pursuit of a contract; they hold the moral high ground and NO amount of FUD can change that. The NJ pilots' Union has an excellent record and they are respected by NJA management. NO amount of word-twisting can change that fact. We're seeing desperation which is good news, actually. It reminds me of the NJA contract dispute. When the FUD got deep, I posted back then that it's always darkest before the dawn. Hang in there, guys, you're on the right track!
NJW

 

[netjetwife]

ARRRGH me hearties! Let's Keel Haul him!!! ....

Aye, aye, Captain! Hear! Hear!

Despicable posts demand harsh discipline.

Yes sir! You hold him and we'll give him the black boot!