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sorry to change the subject, but i heard a NJ pilot volunteered for overtime (he has kids) and other pilots were harassing him for hleping the co. (the pilot was paid for the time worked he just needed extra cash). I also heard some pilots were harassing other pilots for volunteering for OT no matter what the reason- Ot needed for education expenses, OT needed for med bills, etc.

Is this true?
 
FAcFriend said:
sorry to change the subject, but i heard a NJ pilot volunteered for overtime (he has kids) and other pilots were harassing him for hleping the co. (the pilot was paid for the time worked he just needed extra cash). I also heard some pilots were harassing other pilots for volunteering for OT no matter what the reason- Ot needed for education expenses, OT needed for med bills, etc.

Is this true?

Volunteering to cover bills that are already hard to cover thanks to the crap wage this job pays is one thing. Kids, education, taxes, etc. That's one thing.

Volunteering to make the corvette payment or some other non-essentials is just improper.

Let the pilot deal with his/her peers. It will work out. It always does. In the end this is a pilot issue.

OT wouldn't be needed (for some) if Boisture was willing to pay more that 69K at year 5.
 
Hey it's nancy boy foaming at the mouth again! OK troll, let's set the record straight.

The video was a link on the old 284 union website, are you still following me or am I going too fast? As such the website specifically had the warning that it was a restricted site, and as such it was protected by federal wiretap and viewing laws, still with me nancy? So on that site there was a thread linking to the video, still there?

So for you managemnet hacks the only way for you to have gotten ahold of that video was to violate federal law!

The way the video was brought to the attention of the company was by one of the former, fab 5, mec's wife. Did she have access to the website? no, not by the definition of being a union member (wiretap law violated), now when the company accessed the link it was through the union website (federal law violated by the company).

To diferentiate between workplace violence and free speech you must ask yourself these questions:

1. what occured? a guy making a video with disclaimers and syncing the action with music shooting a company dvd (free speech).

2. Did the firing occure on company property? No (not workplace violence).

3. Did a violation of federal law occure with the firing of the weapon? No (legal in the state that it occured, not on company property;not work place violence).

4. Did he injure anyone on company property? no (not workplace violence).

Now follow along here troll and be a man and not a nancy boy and answer this question:

1. Was it not workplace violence when one of our schedulers, while being escorted off the property, put his fist through a wall in rage?

Bueller?? anyone??

C an't H elp I t P al, because you are who you are mole.
 
FLYLOW22 said:
Volunteering to cover bills that are already hard to cover thanks to the crap wage this job pays is one thing. Kids, education, taxes, etc. That's one thing.

Volunteering to make the corvette payment or some other non-essentials is just improper.

Let the pilot deal with his/her peers. It will work out. It always does. In the end this is a pilot issue.

OT wouldn't be needed (for some) if Boisture was willing to pay more that 69K at year 5.

I heard this pilot group was not differentiating between the Ot for legitimate reasons and or for corvette payments. They were just harassing pilots. YOu know regardless of their pay sometimes, we all know this, with kids things come up, tutors, camps, etc. and also sometimes people have to help support their parents etc. and co workers dont even know about it.

Do you guys differentitate before you hassle someone about working OT? Do you require a dr note or something before you think it is ok?
 
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.

We just voted to Strike. I don't think that means anyone should be volunteering for overtime. Instead you should get your butt over to MKE and Picket.
 
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FAcFriend said:
sorry to change the subject, but i heard a NJ pilot volunteered for overtime (he has kids) and other pilots were harassing him for hleping the co. (the pilot was paid for the time worked he just needed extra cash). I also heard some pilots were harassing other pilots for volunteering for OT no matter what the reason- Ot needed for education expenses, OT needed for med bills, etc.

Is this true?

Well Fac, what do you consider harassment? What did the pilots do? Can you give us any details?
 
The fried said:

They were just harassing pilots
.
Please. Tell us what they did!

Do you require a dr note or something before you think it is ok?

You mean like the company does if we call in sick and they are trying to harass us?
 
FAcfriend, you are posting more misinformation. Why even post here when you know nothing about what you speak of? The list of overtime is published by the COMPANY.
 
Hogprint said:
Well Fac, what do you consider harassment? What did the pilots do? Can you give us any details?

Hoggy, I am just asking questions about a rumor. I also heard in a PM that some pilots have started to website to list the names of those who make disparaging comments about pilots who are volunteering for OT.

I have been unable to verify this information and am asking questions.

Maybe I have said too much in this forum.

I was looking for verification from people like you who I think, are generally in the know.
 
Why are you so concerned?

I hate to see people work overtime. Would be better to go home to see your family.

Overtime is no solution to money problems. Only enables those that would have you work for low wages continue to do so for a longer period of time.

Perhaps more people will realize this.

So I cannot encourage anybody to work overtime. It just not 'the right thing to do'.
 

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