NetJets Strike Passes By 93%

[dsptchrnja]

I'm sure, however, that if the Dispatchers and/or Schedulers of NJA would like representation in future cases that Local 1108 could provide Union signing cards that would enable you to do so.

It's simply a choice that only you can make. 1108 can't do it for you and would also have no power to do anything unless you do so.

Thanks for the laugh!!! Unions are on the way out. 13% of all U.S. employees are unionized (and decreasing) according to ABC news just this week, compared to 50% in the 1960's.

Besides I like my job and I like getting raises. Why do I want a beaucracy to screw that up for me like it's done for you?

 

[dsptchrnja]

Dispatcher you are clueless. You DID NOT GET THE MEMO FROM BOISTURE? I did get the memo from BOISTURE STATING THERE IS A GO TO TEAM AND THE FACT THAT THE SCHEDULERS DID ACCEPT GIFTS. You know nothing. I WAS PART OF THE INVESTIGATION AND I WAS ASKED BY THE COMPANY TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION. Boisture ADMITTED THERE WAS FAVORTISM. You don't know CRAP because you WERE NOT THERE. You are WRONG once AGAIN. Also if you attended a company recurrent you would hear Boisture himself state their is a GO TO TEAM AT NJA. So shut the f up about crap you don't know anything about.

Don't confuse the memo with the investigation. The investigation cleared wrongdoing by any schedulers of the accusations made. The memo describes a legitimate use of "Go to" crewmembers for legitimate reasons that can't be balked by the union. So get off your high horse with your "know all" attitudes.

 

[El Chupacabra]

Memo from who? The union? 'nuf said.

No... the company.

 

[Ultra Grump]

...a legitimate use of "Go to" crewmembers for legitimate reasons...

Uh huh...

 

[Some Dude]

Dispatcher you are wrong again. The schedulers did accept gifts. You didn't read the memo. I know you were NOT part of the investigation. YOU ARE CLUELESS SO DON'T TRY TO DEFLECT THE FACTS. DON'T TRY TO ACT LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED OR WHAT WAS REVEALED. YOU WERE NOT THERE. THE ACTIONS WERE ENDORSED BY THE COMPANY, THAT IS WAY SOME PILOTS ARE STILL GETTING 40 TO 70 EXTENDED DAYS A YEAR. Now explain to me what the f the "Go to Team" is. You act like you know so much but you do not.

 

[dsptchrnja]

I will tell you this: If it were up to me, you better believe I would have a "Go to" team at this company. Just recently a crew denied an International trip because they didn't know how to use the HF radios. Now, when Mr. Big$ makes a MIA-TKPK reservation who do you think I'm going to schedule? Capt. Clueless or Capt. Dependable? Union poltics aside, its just a no-brainer.

 

[El Chupacabra]

I got write this one down... Gotta use that next time.

Maybe you are running this company....

 

[Hogprint]

Who's going to be more accurate? You, who flew a couple of tours with this guy (who knows what details were left out?). Or an outside private investigator who has his entire NJA flying history at his fingertips and interviewed all the schedulers to get all the facts?

Sincerely, any reasonable person would have probably thought the same thing, including myself, given only the said facts. But GET OVER IT ALREADY, you were proven wrong! No reasonable person would keep claiming the truth based off 25% of the information after he was proven wrong. Pathetic!

The details I left out were we also went to Portland, Maine, Vegas, Sun Valley. Overnighted in all. Did I mention the CP called and had long loving chats every day? Come on dsptchr, you have to see it for what it is.

Funny that investigator never talked to any pilots that I know. Your probably more privy to the details though. Did the investigator talk to any pilots? If I was investigating I think I would...

 

[FLYLOW22]

Thanks for the laugh!!! Unions are on the way out. 13% of all U.S. employees are unionized (and decreasing) according to ABC news just this week, compared to 50% in the 1960's.

Besides I like my job and I like getting raises. Why do I want a beaucracy to screw that up for me like it's done for you?

Ahhh. But the fact is that the majority of aviation employees REMAIN unionized.. even today. The %'s in aviation are greatly UNcharacteristic of %'s in U.S. Labor abroad.

 

[suen1843]

I will tell you this: If it were up to me, you better believe I would have a "Go to" team at this company. Just recently a crew denied an International trip because they didn't know how to use the HF radios. Now, when Mr. Big$ makes a MIA-TKPK reservation who do you think I'm going to schedule? Capt. Clueless or Capt. Dependable? Union poltics aside, its just a no-brainer.

I find it hard to believe that anyone with a type rating to fly any jet does not know how to use an HF radio. Duuuuuh...you pick up the mike and push the button to talk. Sounds like someone needs to go back to flying Barons for the night freight outfits.

 

[aeronautic1]

I will tell you this: If it were up to me, you better believe I would have a "Go to" team at this company. Just recently a crew denied an International trip because they didn't know how to use the HF radios. Now, when Mr. Big$ makes a MIA-TKPK reservation who do you think I'm going to schedule? Capt. Clueless or Capt. Dependable? Union poltics aside, its just a no-brainer.

We understand what radio propagation is, SEL CAL, and have mulitple transoceanic trips. Call me!!

 

[Diesel]

hey dispatchr do you know how to use HF?

Do you even know what HF is?

 

[Lord Wakefield]

I got write this one down... Gotta use that next time.

Maybe you are running this company....

Won't work. They're now training on HF use in recurrent. Not too long ago, the D.O. woke one of the instructors out of bed when he had an overwater flight. Had been a program manager on the TKS jet and never used an HF. Give him a lot of credit for fessing up rather than look stupid.

Best reason to turn down the trip: I can't go because I haven't had a passport for 2 1/2 month cause Grandpa won't authorise expediting it cause that costs extra money and this ain't EJI !

 

[FLYLOW22]

I find it hard to believe that anyone with a type rating to fly any jet does not know how to use an HF radio. Duuuuuh...you pick up the mike and push the button to talk. Sounds like someone needs to go back to flying Barons for the night freight outfits.

There is a bit more involved with int'l flying than just "pick(ing) up the mike and push the button to talk". I agree that proper training is required. Int'l is not hard but it sure helps to know your game efore going. The language barrier alone is enough to make you scream sometimes.

 

[dsptchrnja]

hey dispatchr do you know how to use HF?

Do you even know what HF is?

Diesel, that's a little belitting isn't it?

I've probably used HF more than you. In the military I was a Telecommunications Specialist so I've used HF, VHF, & UHF extensively.

 

[suen1843]

There is a bit more involved with int'l flying than just "pick(ing) up the mike and push the button to talk". I agree that proper training is required. Int'l is not hard but it sure helps to know your game efore going. The language barrier alone is enough to make you scream sometimes.

The original quote referred to someone not knowing how to use an HF. It had nothing to do the other stuff.
Everyone tries to make this international stuff such a big deal. It's not. I do know that NJA makes extensive use of handlers so there is really not much for the crew to do except drive the bus. I've even seen them using handlers for a Bahamas or Cayman Island trip. That is a real waste of money. Besides, I wouldn't consider any trip to the islands, Mexico or Canada to be international as far as pilot skills/knowledge is concerned.
FYI...I do have several thousand hours operating to/from/throughout all of Europe, Africa, Asia....and just about everywhere else. Unfortunately, I still have to do it about 15 or more times every year.

 

[dsptchrnja]

Dispatcher you are clueless. You DID NOT GET THE MEMO FROM BOISTURE? I did get the memo from BOISTURE STATING THERE IS A GO TO TEAM AND THE FACT THAT THE SCHEDULERS DID ACCEPT GIFTS. You know nothing. I WAS PART OF THE INVESTIGATION AND I WAS ASKED BY THE COMPANY TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION. Boisture ADMITTED THERE WAS FAVORTISM. You don't know CRAP because you WERE NOT THERE. You are WRONG once AGAIN. Also if you attended a company recurrent you would hear Boisture himself state their is a GO TO TEAM AT NJA. So shut the f up about crap you don't know anything about.

Some Dude, you've got Some Hole to dig yourself out of now. Pulled the memo out of the old archives. I have to wonder if either you slept through the investigation or if you were even really part of it at all.


1. None of the schedulers violated any company rule. No scheduler was penalized and all returned to their job.

2. It was concluded that schedulers did no wrong in using volunteers crewmembers for covering ASAP trips. No evidence was shown that indicated schedulers treated crewmembers better as a result of recieving small gifts.

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So continue to try to accuse innocent people and continue to discredit yourself. Once again you cry how NJA scheduling is so corrupt and once again you are caught embellishing the truth to fit your agenda. Crow for dinner?​

 

[Some Dude]

Dispatcher, Wrong again, you were NOT part of the investigation. You did NOT receive the MEMO I am referring to. I WILL NOT POST THE MEMO. You sir could be terminated for posting a company memo on this site. I have signed a nondisclousure policy therefore I will NOT disclose any company info. Are you that stupid to think that was the only memo? Hello? persons involved in the investigation received more info than the casino employees. Duh! I said they received gifts and your memo quotes the company as stating that receiving gifts is okay. Nice morals. Your memo doesn't mention the value of the gifts or how many times the gifts were accepted. It's a nice spin by the company.

So, I won't be ordering "crow" for my crew food. Next time you want to discuss something you know nothing about I suggest you don't. You lose every time.

 

[Diesel]

edit- Dispatchr I copied your post and i thought even doing that was asking for trouble.

Jesus man you posted a company memo on a Public website? WTF are you thinking man.

 

[buttercup]

edit- Dispatchr I copied your post and i thought even doing that was asking for trouble.

Jesus man you posted a company memo on a Public website? WTF are you thinking man.

Yeah no kidding. The hypocrisy is startling to say the least. A pilot gets wrongfully terminated for blasting a DVD on private property and posting it on a private, unionized message board. I guess to be in the good graces of the Netjets nuthuggers one must punch a hole in the wall at work or cut and paste private company memorandums on a public forum.