NetJets Strike Passes By 93%

[suen1843]

There is a bit more involved with int'l flying than just "pick(ing) up the mike and push the button to talk". I agree that proper training is required. Int'l is not hard but it sure helps to know your game efore going. The language barrier alone is enough to make you scream sometimes.

The original quote referred to someone not knowing how to use an HF. It had nothing to do the other stuff.
Everyone tries to make this international stuff such a big deal. It's not. I do know that NJA makes extensive use of handlers so there is really not much for the crew to do except drive the bus. I've even seen them using handlers for a Bahamas or Cayman Island trip. That is a real waste of money. Besides, I wouldn't consider any trip to the islands, Mexico or Canada to be international as far as pilot skills/knowledge is concerned.
FYI...I do have several thousand hours operating to/from/throughout all of Europe, Africa, Asia....and just about everywhere else. Unfortunately, I still have to do it about 15 or more times every year.

 

[dsptchrnja]

Dispatcher you are clueless. You DID NOT GET THE MEMO FROM BOISTURE? I did get the memo from BOISTURE STATING THERE IS A GO TO TEAM AND THE FACT THAT THE SCHEDULERS DID ACCEPT GIFTS. You know nothing. I WAS PART OF THE INVESTIGATION AND I WAS ASKED BY THE COMPANY TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION. Boisture ADMITTED THERE WAS FAVORTISM. You don't know CRAP because you WERE NOT THERE. You are WRONG once AGAIN. Also if you attended a company recurrent you would hear Boisture himself state their is a GO TO TEAM AT NJA. So shut the f up about crap you don't know anything about.

Some Dude, you've got Some Hole to dig yourself out of now. Pulled the memo out of the old archives. I have to wonder if either you slept through the investigation or if you were even really part of it at all.


1. None of the schedulers violated any company rule. No scheduler was penalized and all returned to their job.

2. It was concluded that schedulers did no wrong in using volunteers crewmembers for covering ASAP trips. No evidence was shown that indicated schedulers treated crewmembers better as a result of recieving small gifts.

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So continue to try to accuse innocent people and continue to discredit yourself. Once again you cry how NJA scheduling is so corrupt and once again you are caught embellishing the truth to fit your agenda. Crow for dinner?​

 

[Some Dude]

Dispatcher, Wrong again, you were NOT part of the investigation. You did NOT receive the MEMO I am referring to. I WILL NOT POST THE MEMO. You sir could be terminated for posting a company memo on this site. I have signed a nondisclousure policy therefore I will NOT disclose any company info. Are you that stupid to think that was the only memo? Hello? persons involved in the investigation received more info than the casino employees. Duh! I said they received gifts and your memo quotes the company as stating that receiving gifts is okay. Nice morals. Your memo doesn't mention the value of the gifts or how many times the gifts were accepted. It's a nice spin by the company.

So, I won't be ordering "crow" for my crew food. Next time you want to discuss something you know nothing about I suggest you don't. You lose every time.

 

[Diesel]

edit- Dispatchr I copied your post and i thought even doing that was asking for trouble.

Jesus man you posted a company memo on a Public website? WTF are you thinking man.

 

[buttercup]

edit- Dispatchr I copied your post and i thought even doing that was asking for trouble.

Jesus man you posted a company memo on a Public website? WTF are you thinking man.

Yeah no kidding. The hypocrisy is startling to say the least. A pilot gets wrongfully terminated for blasting a DVD on private property and posting it on a private, unionized message board. I guess to be in the good graces of the Netjets nuthuggers one must punch a hole in the wall at work or cut and paste private company memorandums on a public forum.

 

[flyfysh]

Diesel-Hey FaCfriend. Why do you care. You don't need to know what's going on. This is our fight. You have no say in what goes on period.

Do you work the line? Nope so you have no idea what is going on.

You probably have access to our union website and are doing the "everybody is saying" or "my friend told me" that way you don't lose credibility.

It doesn't concern you so shut the F up.

I beg to differ with you sir, any employee of this company has a dog in this fight whether you care to admit it or not. Something else you may have a hard time understanding is that it takes more than just the pilots to make this company run and do so safely and efficiently. I mean no disrespect because I honestly do believe that we have the very best pilots in the industry. (contrary to how some of them are representing themselves on this site)
I have been reading this site for quite some time and I balk at how people have lowered themselves to talk about their peers AND the company that still supplies them a paycheck. There is a positive side to this and that is that I am out in the field enough to know that it really is just a handful of you that continue to stir the pot.

 

[CMHTroll]

Craw back under your rock

Dispatcher you are wrong again. The schedulers did accept gifts. You didn't read the memo. I know you were NOT part of the investigation. YOU ARE CLUELESS SO DON'T TRY TO DEFLECT THE FACTS. DON'T TRY TO ACT LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED OR WHAT WAS REVEALED. YOU WERE NOT THERE. THE ACTIONS WERE ENDORSED BY THE COMPANY, THAT IS WAY SOME PILOTS ARE STILL GETTING 40 TO 70 EXTENDED DAYS A YEAR. Now explain to me what the f the "Go to Team" is. You act like you know so much but you do not.

Looks like it is another mystery memo. Dispatcher does have a point. Although he should not post company information,his information does prove the point. And everyone remembers reading that memoon the Crew-ops web site. Now, if you have a super secret special memo that says something different... well what made you so special?

Another baseless accusation. If you have facts, use them with the ethics number. If you don't go and craw back in your hole or under your union rock.

 

[Some Dude]

Man you guys think you know everything because you work in CMH. You guys were NOT involved in the investigation. Enough said.

 

[Hawkered]

Family Guy,

The real issue here is that these numbskulls all think its the '20s and they can go 'round acting like Hoffa. Their actions and threats to those of us that do extend are illegal. I know in the X, if we didn't extend, there would be enormous detriment to the company which would screw us all out of a raise anyway.

 

[dsptchrnja]

Dispatcher, Wrong again, you were NOT part of the investigation. You did NOT receive the MEMO I am referring to. I WILL NOT POST THE MEMO. You sir could be terminated for posting a company memo on this site. I have signed a nondisclousure policy therefore I will NOT disclose any company info. Are you that stupid to think that was the only memo? Hello? persons involved in the investigation received more info than the casino employees. Duh! I said they received gifts and your memo quotes the company as stating that receiving gifts is okay. Nice morals. Your memo doesn't mention the value of the gifts or how many times the gifts were accepted. It's a nice spin by the company.

So, I won't be ordering "crow" for my crew food. Next time you want to discuss something you know nothing about I suggest you don't. You lose every time.

I can't even begin to sort through the hypocrisy.

1. I never claimed to be part of the investigation.

2. You asked if I got the memo and obviously I did. Now it's not the one you were referring to. How convenient. If there is a memo out there just for those in the investigation then why did you ask if I had it?

3. Obviously there is no non-disclosure policy for company distributed memos. But, since you have such a problem with it, and I don't trust you anyway, I have paraphrased the memo so we can get on with the real issue.

4. So what is the real issue here anyway? I mean, this happened years ago, what exactly is your point in bringing all this up on a public forum anyway? The dust had already cleared. Please don't tell me that you think you know better than the independent investigators? If you disagree with the decision then just say so and move on - but don't go around years later and continue to accuse people who have been cleared of wrongdoing. You are making a fool of yourself.

5. On one side of your mouth you guys complain that the company isn't a family anymore and out the other you complain that someone is getting gifts. Guess what? In my family we give appropriate gifts to each other to show we appreciate one another. There is no fear of a grievence being filed if I accept it. You need to come back to reality if you think you can have it both ways.

 

[dsptchrnja]

edit- Dispatchr I copied your post and i thought even doing that was asking for trouble.

Jesus man you posted a company memo on a Public website? WTF are you thinking man.

And I don't know you from Adam. So why is it OK for you to email me a copy of the memo?

 

[flyfysh]

Man you guys think you know everything because you work in CMH. You guys were NOT involved in the investigation. Enough said.

My choosing to reply to a thread does not imply that I live in CMH, that is pretty narrow-minded. (For the record, you are incorrect) You assume so because I did not agree with the disparaging remarks that have been posted on this site. You are correct, I was not a part of the investigation but heard about it just as everyone else did. Do I agree with how it was handled, at this point that is neither here nor there, we need to stay focused on getting to a resolution of the issues at hand. Quite honestly, we are like dogs chasing our tails by rehashing the past and it is getting us nowhere. Enough said.

 

[FamilyGuy]

Hawkered what part of the COMPANY published the list do you NOT understand?

Hawkered, the list was started because the company must provide an equitable amount of flying for all pilots. We need to know who volunteered and who received extended days so the whole group can see if the company showed any favortism in it's scheduling practice. I have a right to learn who worked all their "off days" and didn't work their schedules days. This is to TRY to prevent the "A Team" abuse that happened before. Sorry but we still have some suck a$$es here that would do anything to lick the ball sweat from a company manager.

Two completely different explanations in just 3 hours and 27 minutes..... must be some kind of record.

So make up your mind DUDE. Are you going to blame the Company for publishing the list or admit that it was at the request of the union?

 

[FamilyGuy]

Yes Virgina, stupidity does run rampent in the glass house.

Anyone else see the irony in this statement?

 

[FamilyGuy]

Dude are you kidding me? You're saying that some pencil pusher used all his investigative skills and says there is no A team. Then we get a memo there is a "go to team".

You must see it everyday. You dispatch why don't you just look at the names you are filing for. Notice how a lot of the cherry trips get picked up by certain captains?

I can't remember any of these "number crunchers" talking to any of the pilots or any of the union officials. They must not have wanted to dig toooo deep.

Are you suggesting that the "number crunchers" should have talked to the same union that is twisting arms and threatening its own members to not take overtime?

Yeah, that sounds like a credible source of information.

Simple truth is that the facts dont lie. If these number crunchers had access to all the crew schedules and overtime records then that is all that is needed to determine if favoritism was present. Its either in the data or its not.

If you had a problem with the findings of these number crunchers then why didnt you call the ethics hotline 2 years ago? Why raise the issue on an internet board? Maybe because you know there is NO VALIDITY to your claims?