Netjets Ain Article

[Ace-of-the-Base]

Anyone operating a Netjets flight while the pilots are striking is considered crossing the picket line and will be considered a scab. It has been that way in the past and this would be no different. No it is not like going to a different carrier and them being scabs, I don't even see how you can compare your United and American scenario. That would apply if we were trying to call Options or Flex pilots scabs for operating while we strike, which we obviously aren't. We are talking about other pilots working for the company while we are in a stoppage, yes a sub-contractor would fall into this category.

I don't fly charter and this doesn't directly affect my bottom line, however, you are sooooo off base. Read the FARs. A part 135 operator is not 'working' for NetJets in any way, shape or form. They are in independent operation and maintain complete operational control. Therefore, it is EXACTLY like NetJets is buying a ticket on another carrier. Yes, 135s are air carriers. Keep your anger focused. If some pilots want to come and WORK for NetJets as subs, you have a beef, this line of scare tactics just makes you look pathetic and desparate.

And everyone is right on this one, don't start trying to scare other OPERATORS, you never know when you might want to get an interview.

Ace

 

[niteflyr]

Maybe some research into the UPS/IBT strike would be helpful to some of you. I was not saying or implying that flying subcontract work right now is considered scabbing, it is not and you are correct we are grieving that fact with the company. I was only referring to the subcontracting in the event we do end up on strike. As for banned from NJA, no we are referring to a much larger scablist, not just an NJA list. As for cutting both ways, I never have and never will be looking for a corporate gig...

 

[h25b]

As for cutting both ways, I never have and never will be looking for a corporate gig...

If you guys don't get a better contract there will be a ton of your F.O.'s that will be...

 

[El Chupacabra]

Therefore, it is EXACTLY like NetJets is buying a ticket on another carrier. Yes, 135s are air carriers. Keep your anger focused. If some pilots want to come and WORK for NetJets as subs, you have a beef, this line of scare tactics just makes you look pathetic and desparate.

And everyone is right on this one, don't start trying to scare other OPERATORS, you never know when you might want to get an interview.

Ace

No its not.

Its like American going on strike then chartering planes from United to fly their trips. The pilots flying the struck work on chartered aircraft would be scabs.

At 59 I am not worried about interviews. This is last stop.

 

[holden1]

Will NetJets really let this happen?

Folks - some extremely interesting posts. What I can't figure is why NetJets would let this happen. Everything that they "pitch" to the affluent owner or corporation is about quality and safety. If they were to have to heavily subcontract out wouldn't that really tarnish their position?

It strikes me that the union will gain concessions here but I cannot possibly see NetJets actually letting a formal strike happen.

 

[El Chupacabra]

You might be right but the unconfirmed rumour is they have put charter vendors on notice to ramp up for increased selloffs in case of strike. Fact or Fiction it is not clear.

 

[h25b]

At 59 I am not worried about interviews. This is last stop.

That's good for you, but it sounds like the same old union scare crap (and yes I have been in one)... When the new contract comes I'm sure people like yourselves will have won out and will throw the junior guys to the wolves.

So my point remains, this IS NOT the airlines..

 

[2000flyer]

As for cutting both ways, I never have and never will be looking for a corporate gig...

Now there is a career limiting statement. I take it you mean it's "Airline or Bust?"

So, if you're on the Teamsters scab list, does that mean you can't get a job in any Teamster operation?

 

[h25b]

You might be right but the unconfirmed rumour is they have put charter vendors on notice to ramp up for increased selloffs in case of strike. Fact or Fiction it is not clear.

I can tell you that our certificate holder HAS NOT been told this. For the record, they are a BIG vendor. So I would say this is fiction. But we have seen a significant increase as of late with all fractional business.

By the way for you "scab" branding baffoons... Just what do you think would happen if you guys strike AND there were no sell-off's ??? Well, the owner would simply call these charter operators directly to charter their trip (after leaving NetJets program ENTIRELY/PERMANENTLY). This is most likely exactly what they were doing BEFORE they joined NetJets anyway. The end result is the same. The only variable is how big of morons you make out of yourselves in the process.

 

[ultrarunner]

Any NJ owner is free to spend their money as they wish. And we are evaluating such business opportunities.

Should we do any of this flying, this will simply be a charter flight for a charter customer. It's as simple as that.

No different than if the NJ owner buys a ticket on an airline or buys passage on a charter.

You bozos that brand anyone flying around an NJ owner that is strike stranded, a scab, is just not in touch with the big picture (or even the definition of scab for that matter).

So, let me repeat myself:

A scab is someone that crosses YOUR picket line and takes YOUR JOB. Simple as that.