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The Smack Down!
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MESA did'nt start this mess...youngster
How about ALPA starting it? There the real ones that sign off on POS contracts!!!
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MESA did'nt start this mess...youngster
Yeah, pilots sign off of those contracts too. ALPA may suck, but pilots let it suck.
Are you joking me? Yes it has been proved time and time again that the Mesa pilot is more than willing to be pushed around at will. And it all starts in training, they wont even pay for the dam hotel. Then when you are in CRJ training they issue you a purple piece of ply-wood so that you can bridge the isle on the CRJ so you can sleep on stand-ups. I left Mesa while in training because it was laughable, and now I am at Eagle and love working here, they treat you well, pay decent, AA is recalling, bases are great, decent raise every year, hotels on standups, orginization, other airlines dont hate us, and I have never been turned down on a jumpseat, unlike a few of my friends at Mesa(which i think is crap). I hope that Mesa pilots dont bend over this time, because they are bringing the industry down with ********************ty work rules and QOL. So get off of your high horse, and see this company for what it is.An Eagle pilot making a comment like that? That is absolutely laughable. Nobody in their (note: I wrote 'their' not 'there') right mind would sign a contract like the Eagle pilots did. Ohhhhhh....you weren't there during the negotiations of that "wonderful" Eagle contract? Hmmmm...neither were 80% of the Mesa pilots that you guys so eagerly bash. I was there during the signing of the "concessionary" contract that Mesa signed - it was disgusting, primarily because of the fact that we had to take a concessionary contract to merge those Freedom pukes back on the Mesa seniority list. It makes me sick to hear about you arrogant f*cks who think that their (again, 'their', not 'there') company is immune from some idiot like JO from ruining their quality of life by trying to introduce an alter-ego airline to skate around a current contract.
Mesa isn't a bad place (yes, I earned $109,724 in my last year at Mesa) if you know what type of management you're up against. It was incredibly educational to find out what bottom-feeder management exists out there, but it's not the pilot group's fault that they are overworked and underpaid - it has a lot to do with the fact that management (i.e., JO, the original egomaniac) has no concept of "legalities" and "doing the right thing."
At my current employer, I am tremendously grateful that they don't have the scumbag mentality that JO has, and that they look out for each employee's interests. I wouldn't appreciate that if I hadn't been through the "Mesa Experience" and been made aware of the morons that can exist at the head of an airline.
I take great offense to those arrogant knuckleheads who feel that Mesa is made up of a group of pushovers who can be shoved around at will and constantly denegrated - you are wrong. I have met some of the most hardworking, customer oriented people in my life at Mesa...it is management who keeps them from doing their jobs. Give it up on the Mesa-bashing...unless you are so diminuitively hung that you can't find somebody else to pick on.
Grow up...before I throw up...
True..... especially when 84% of a pilot group votes 'yes' on a POS contract.
Are you joking me? Yes it has been proved time and time again that the Mesa pilot is more than willing to be pushed around at will. And it all starts in training, they wont even pay for the dam hotel. Then when you are in CRJ training they issue you a purple piece of ply-wood so that you can bridge the isle on the CRJ so you can sleep on stand-ups. I left Mesa while in training because it was laughable, and now I am at Eagle and love working here, they treat you well, pay decent, AA is recalling, bases are great, decent raise every year, hotels on standups, orginization, other airlines dont hate us, and I have never been turned down on a jumpseat, unlike a few of my friends at Mesa(which i think is crap). I hope that Mesa pilots dont bend over this time, because they are bringing the industry down with ********************ty work rules and QOL. So get off of your high horse, and see this company for what it is.
True..... especially when 84% of a pilot group votes 'yes' on a POS contract.
Go pop another zit kid.
he's new. give him a year and see what he thinks of AMR, Inc.
they payed into the Comair strike fund. i would say the american eagle contract is worse than mesa's. i had a few friends over their that left after 6 years an FO
Not even close to being able to draw a comparsion between Eagle and Mesa. I am going to be an FO here for a while, and I will gladly take that over being a CA in two years at Mesa, dont even try and make it seem like they are close to being the same.he's new. give him a year and see what he thinks of AMR, Inc.
Not even close to being able to draw a comparsion between Eagle and Mesa. I am going to be an FO here for a while, and I will gladly take that over being a CA in two years at Mesa, dont even try and make it seem like they are close to being the same.
while i appreciate the pride in eagle i see displayed on here, our shiite does stink too! JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER REGIONAL POS OPERATOR OUT THERE. THEY ARE ALL B-SCALES FLYING MAINLINE ROUTES.
and don't go cheering that last statment mr. mainliner. you guys happily gave up the 50 seat and up market because it was "beneath" you. you deserve what you got.
siucavflight, we'll see how you like being an FO with ORD EMJ CA LR. i heard he's a real bastard. our bastard on the CRJ was gotten rid of last year.
the only good thing about JO, is his hot daughter. has she been made into a woman yet?
btw, i heard it was a "butterball" year at mesa.
while i appreciate the pride in eagle i see displayed on here, our shiite does stink too! JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER REGIONAL POS OPERATOR OUT THERE. THEY ARE ALL B-SCALES FLYING MAINLINE ROUTES.
and don't go cheering that last statment mr. mainliner. you guys happily gave up the 50 seat and up market because it was "beneath" you. you deserve what you got.
siucavflight, we'll see how you like being an FO with ORD EMJ CA LR. i heard he's a real bastard. our bastard on the CRJ was gotten rid of last year.
I would rather endure Eagle and their 10yr upgrade instead POS Mesa!
Eagle's contract ISN'T EVEN CLOSE to the Mesa garbage.
Made 111K last year and already broke 100K ON 10/31......about 123K for this year.
Seniority helps, but you're talking apples and dogdoo my friend. No windbreakers and wooden boards here.