Mesa pilots don't want a pay raise!!!

[80for80]

IN OTHER WORDS, GOOD LUCK ON A BETTER CONTRACT !!!! I THINK I SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE PILOT GROUP. WE DONT WANT A PAY RAISE !!!! WE WANT QOL, AND THAT DOESNT COST ANYTHING !






I thought folks might find this research report on Continental Express interesting. There is certainly a very important lesson to be learned here. With one of the higher cost structures in the industry resulting from an aging fleet, costly new pilot contract, major airline style corporate overhead, among other things, the company lost one third of all it’s flying (69 aircraft) when Continental exercised it’s right to terminate the flying. In addition, Continental has the right to terminate the remaining flying over the next two years. Faced with this dilemma the company is now attempting to find homes for these aircraft. If the company is unable to win additional business with major carriers because it can not compete effectively due to its high cost structure the situation could become very difficult. If COEX attempts to go down the “independent” path like the one chosen by Atlantic Coast Airlines (which ended up liquidated less than two years after the operation began) the situation could negatively impact Mesa - the COEX aircraft may well end up back on the market at lower lease rates (like the Atlantic Coast aircraft) making it more difficult for us to compete with our more expensive aircraft. All in all it appears this is not a very good situation – and only emphasizes how critical it is for us to maintain our ability to compete with low costs and efficient service. Have a nice weekend, Jonathan

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

That's from Jonathan Orenstein. He's posturing for the coming negotiations. I can tell you my friends at Mesa are Pissed-Off. They seem to be gaining the resolve to fight.

We'll see how they do after the negotiations get under way. The MEC over there posted a pretty nasty no confidence news release about JO and cronies.

Let the games begin.

 

[wmuflyguy]

IN OTHER WORDS, GOOD LUCK ON A BETTER CONTRACT !!!! I THINK I SPEAK FOR THE ENTIRE PILOT GROUP. WE DONT WANT A PAY RAISE !!!! WE WANT QOL, AND THAT DOESNT COST ANYTHING !






I thought folks might find this research report on Continental Express interesting. There is certainly a very important lesson to be learned here. With one of the higher cost structures in the industry resulting from an aging fleet, costly new pilot contract, major airline style corporate overhead, among other things, the company lost one third of all it’s flying (69 aircraft) when Continental exercised it’s right to terminate the flying. In addition, Continental has the right to terminate the remaining flying over the next two years. Faced with this dilemma the company is now attempting to find homes for these aircraft. If the company is unable to win additional business with major carriers because it can not compete effectively due to its high cost structure the situation could become very difficult. If COEX attempts to go down the “independent” path like the one chosen by Atlantic Coast Airlines (which ended up liquidated less than two years after the operation began) the situation could negatively impact Mesa - the COEX aircraft may well end up back on the market at lower lease rates (like the Atlantic Coast aircraft) making it more difficult for us to compete with our more expensive aircraft. All in all it appears this is not a very good situation – and only emphasizes how critical it is for us to maintain our ability to compete with low costs and efficient service. Have a nice weekend, Jonathan

Your an idiot. Most of your so-called "facts" aren't correct anyway.

Heard growth is slowing down there. Have fun with that.

 

[CitationLover]

Your an idiot.

while i appreciate the cheap mesa bash attempt here, you must realize he simply posted a letter that Johnny O sent to pilots. you must hone your mesa bashing skills.

oh, and it's you're (as in you are) an idiot.

 

[rickair7777]

The mesa payscale is not actually that horrible at face value. What they really need...

Workrules
Days Off
Duty Rig
Trip Rig
Block or Better
CANX pay
Hotels


And #1...contract compliance on the part of the company.

 

[AviatorTx]

The mesa payscale is not actually that horrible at face value. What they really need...

Workrules
Days Off
Duty Rig
Trip Rig
Block or Better
CANX pay
Hotels


And #1...contract compliance on the part of the company.

If what you posted is correct, the face value of their contract... SUCKS!

Good luck Mesa pilots. Remember Freedumb? J.O. has more tricks up his sleeve. Don't give up.

 

[rickair7777]

J.O. has more tricks up his sleeve. Don't give up.

Yeah, I'm almost morbidly curious to find out what the trick(s) are going to be this time.

 

[wmuflyguy]

while i appreciate the cheap mesa bash attempt here, you must realize he simply posted a letter that Johnny O sent to pilots. you must hone your mesa bashing skills.

oh, and it's you're (as in you are) an idiot.

I didn't realize it was a letter.

By the way you are supposed to capitalize the first letter of a sentence.

 

[John Pennekamp]

The mesa payscale is not actually that horrible at face value.

Are you for real?

The Mesa payscale is the bottom of the industry. It is the target ASA and every other regional management wants to shoot for.

The Mesa MEC say they had to accept the lousy pay they have to buy scope and get Freedom back. Now they say they want to keep the pay?

If the Mesa pilot group truly isn't looking to improve their pay scale, then it proves that they are content bottom feeding and taking our jobs away.

Somebody from Mesa please say it 'aint so! Tell me this was just posted as flamebait.

 

[grog_sit_reserv]

RTFP!

JohhnyO's email to the pilots posturing for the company's opener for the new contract and possible rebuttal to the NO Confidence vote of the ENTIRE Pilot group in the current Management team.

Lets see what supporting Mesa does during this time while they're trying to unify against Orenstein.