MDA Arbitration update???

[I.P. Freley]

Well, when you say "they" are going to lay off pilots, the "they" in question is not REP (who is buying the airplanes), it is USAirways, who currently employs the pilots that fly those airplanes. Republic isn't laying off anyone in this deal, even though they are somehow being blamed for it.

To answer your question, REP does in fact have a bunch of pilots just sitting around waiting for those 170's. It's my understanding (possibly faulty) that more than half of the pilots who are coming off the Saab arm of Shuttle America will end up at Republic flying those former USAir 170's... So that accounts for half of the hundred additional pilots (over the 150) they'd need to staff them.

 

[bailout]

i hate to ask this, but who is MDA? ive never quite understood the whole blue airplane thing. (meaning, arent there about 10 companies flying for USAir in blue planes? i dont know who all they are, or belong to)

 

[Airline Driver]

MDA (Mid-Atlantic Airlines):

A USair Wholly owned company. The purpose was to give furloughed USair mainline Pilots jobs so they would not be on the street. That in a nut shell is who they are. I am not quite sure of the In's and outs of MDA there has been some dispute whether or not they are really owned by USair but I don't know the logistics. Sorry to any MDA Pilot If I have spoken out of context.

For the MDA Guys coming over to the Republic Airways Holdings Family. Welcome aboard!!!! I am a Shuttle America Saab Driver, who can sympathize with your anger and frustration with the whole endeavor. All 86 Saab pilots got screwed TOO!!!!!! I am sorry things worked out the way they did but there is nothing any of us can do. I will probably be displaced to the Republic side of the company and look forward to flying with you all!!!

See you on line!!!!

 

[trainer8]

MDA (Mid-Atlantic Airlines):

A USair Wholly owned company.

Incorrect. MDA is ....erh, ah.....was a Division of US Airways, operated on the AAA Ops certificate by US Airways pilots. All pilots on the property are on the US Airways Seniority list, regardless of their airline of origin. They have average a combined (Capt/FO) experience level of 30 years in Airline aviation and average 15,000 hours flight experience.

Sorry to any MDA Pilot If I have spoken out of context.

Not uncommon on these message boards. Glad I could set you straight.

 

[PHXFLYR]

Incorrect. MDA is ....erh, ah.....was a Division of US Airways, operated on the AAA Ops certificate by US Airways pilots. All pilots on the property are on the US Airways Seniority list, regardless of their airline of origin. ......

Care to clarify that statement a bit? I have a good friend who was a Dash 8 Capt at Piedmont and was on something called the CEL list He flowed thru to
MDA and is now an E170 F/O. Does he have an actual USAirways senority number or does he have just an MDA senority number? Thanks for the clarification.


PHXFLYR

 

[Draginass]

My guess is that the U ALPA guys don't give a hoot about MDA and would just like them to go away quietly . . . . with the appropriate amount of consolation and "concern."

 

[LearLove]

Care to clarify that statement a bit? I have a good friend who was a Dash 8 Capt at Piedmont and was on something called the CEL list He flowed thru to
MDA and is now an E170 F/O. Does he have an actual USAirways senority number or does he have just an MDA senority number? Thanks for the clarification.


PHXFLYR

Yes we have U senority numbers and will be recalled if that ever happens

 

[j-3]

Does he have an actual USAirways senority number or does he have just an MDA senority number? Thanks for the clarification.
PHXFLYR[/quote]


He have both. After furlough he will be placed in the APL (US Airways Affective Pilot List).

 

[PHXFLYR]

Yes we have U senority numbers and will be recalled if that ever happens

Does the U/AWA merger affect your recall rights at all ?


PHXFLYR

 

[PHXFLYR]

My guess is that the U ALPA guys don't give a hoot about MDA and would just like them to go away quietly . . . . with the appropriate amount of consolation and "concern."

Dunno about that........


PHXFLYR

 

[trainer8]

Care to clarify that statement a bit? I have a good friend who was a Dash 8 Capt at Piedmont and was on something called the CEL list He flowed thru to
MDA and is now an E170 F/O. Does he have an actual USAirways senority number or does he have just an MDA senority number? Thanks for the clarification.
PHXFLYR

As stated, he has both. He is, a US Airways Pilot. He will be part of the AW/U merger. All CEL pilots who flowed to U are now U Pilots

 

[PHXFLYR]

How can he be a USAir pilot if he never actually flew for USAir, but 2 of the wholly owned subsideries instead ??


PHXFLYR

 

[j-3]

How can he be a USAir pilot if he never actually flew for USAir, but 2 of the wholly owned subsideries instead ??


PHXFLYR

Because MidAtlantic never existed, he was in fact flying for USAir.

 

[kngarthur]

Because MidAtlantic never existed, he was in fact flying for USAir.

Let me clear it up! MDA are a bunch of whiny a$$es, who think they're better than everyone else. They also believe that they are "entitled" to other carriers seniority list. It's about time they get a rude awakening!

ALL OR NONE!!! (Yea, keep up that attitude and let's see where it get's you)

 

[trainer8]

How can he be a USAir pilot if he never actually flew for USAir, but 2 of the wholly owned subsideries instead ??


PHXFLYR

*sigh*

As stated...and this was proclaimed by JG in the recent arbitration...MDA is US Airways.

Also, by AAA ALPA proclamation in eaarly Nov

T8

 

[PHXFLYR]

How many CEL pilots flowed over to MDA?

PHXFLYR

 

[j-3]

How many CEL pilots flowed over to MDA?

PHXFLYR

about 110 pilots (100 ALG/10 PDT)

 

[Airline Driver]

Incorrect. MDA is ....erh, ah.....was a Division of US Airways, operated on the AAA Ops certificate by US Airways pilots. All pilots on the property are on the US Airways Seniority list, regardless of their airline of origin. They have average a combined (Capt/FO) experience level of 30 years in Airline aviation and average 15,000 hours flight experience.

Not uncommon on these message boards. Glad I could set you straight.

Thanks for the information. It was information handed down to me that I thaught was right. I guess when information is handed down from person to person it gets twisted in one form or another.

If your coming over to Repubic welcome aboard!!!! Sorry to here about the outcome of your arbitration. As a Shuttle Saab Pilot I understand the disappointment and anger you must be feeling!!!

Good luck!!!

 

[j-3]

Let me clear it up! MDA are a bunch of whiny a$$es, who think they're better than everyone else. They also believe that they are "entitled" to other carriers seniority list. It's about time they get a rude awakening!

ALL OR NONE!!! (Yea, keep up that attitude and let's see where it get's you)

"ALPA and USAIR conspired to dupe pilots into accepting lower pay and benefits by portraying MidAtlantic as a separate entity."

No pilot is "entitled" to other carriers seniority list. Pilots are entitled to a labor contract (LOA 91).

Kngarthur, don’t worry, management prevailed again, one more contract tossed in the trash.

I wish you the best, just hope when it is your turn to fight for your contract you prevail.

 

[AirBill]

I am a Shuttle America Saab Driver, who can sympathize with your anger and frustration with the whole endeavor. All 86 Saab pilots got screwed TOO!!!!!!

Bunch of pissed off first officers over here too, so if the definition of success in an arbitration is anger on both sides, then I guess the arbitrator got it about right.