MDA Arbitration update???

[ASH]

Well it's the 12th now. No news from the arbitrator. Any MDA guys care to chime in? Word was we would hear by the 11th.
Anyone?

 

[sleddriver77]

Don't these things always take a week or so longer than scheduled??

 

[TWA Dude]

My Chautauqua source said word was due on the 15th. We'll see.

 

[CFII]

Well guys, the 15th has come and gone. What is the latest on the issue. Thanks.

 

[FR8mastr]

Friday the 18th from the Airways code-a-phone

 

[Mav204]

The 18th is now here!!!! Any word?

 

[Swaayze]

sure it will be late in the day.......my money's on "asset sale" (not that I agree with that)

 

[KingAirer]

Change of Control.

 

[Swaayze]

you lose, along with all the MDA folks......

 

[BrickYardPilot]

MDA Arbitration Question

It's official. This info was just received from our IBT747 rep. The arbitrator has decided that it was an asset sale.

Republic Airlines will offer 150 positions (75 Captain / 75 First Officer) to the approx 350 MDA pilots by seniority. The current J4J protocol will be used to integrate the incoming MDA pilots into the Republic Airways Holdings (CHQ) Master Pilot Seniority List.

They will retain their current MDA seniority amongst the other former MDA pilots who are already at Republic.

The former MDA pilots who are already at Republic and are now on line or in training will not lose their seat or base to the new MDA pilots who aren't here yet.

I'm learning all of this as I go. If there is a mistake in any or all of it, please feel free to correct it. Let me apologize ahead of time for anything I didn't get right.

 

[NCFlyer]

"This is MEC Chairman Bill Pollock with a US Airways MEC update for Friday, November 18th, with two new items.

Item 1. I am disappointed to report that Arbitrator Krinsky’s decision in the Wexford/Republic grievance has upheld the Company’s position that the sale of MDA was an Aircraft Sales Event and not a Change of Control or an MDA Affiliate Event as argued by the Association. As such, vacancies at Republic will continue to be filled using the 50 percent Jets for Jobs provisions."

 

[AirCanon04]

so in english this means....?

 

[BenderGonzales]

It means that USAir sold the airplanes out from under the 350 MDA pilots.

175 of them will be offered jobs in accordance with J4J.

The other 175 will be re-furloughed... again.

Sad.

 

[Mav204]

When are the 175 furloughed? Know that the first group went Nov 1 how about the second and third groups?

 

[I.P. Freley]

How on earth did MDA need 322 pilots to staff 25 airplanes? Using the usual 10:1 ratio, I'd expect there to be around 250 pilots... Not well over 300.

 

[FR8mastr]

There was never 350, and now the number is around 220, probably less

 

[I.P. Freley]

Just going by the number shown in an online article about their lawsuit. 322 was the number I saw.

 

[91100 100 set]

I believe the number peaked around 300 some time ago, with a fair amount of excess in anticipation of further deliveries that sadly never came. Round two of bancruptcy obviously brought deliveries and further hiring (flowing-thru really) to a screeching halt. There has been a significant amount of attrition since then, and I have no idea what the current number is, nor can I venture a guess as to how many would be interested in J4J.

 

[arthompson]

If I recall correctly the US protocol is 6 crews per airplane. That would be around 300 pilots.

 

[Tim47SIP]

Whats up with this?

Well, it is normally 5-1 so the above poster is correct at 250. But, if 150 are getting to move with the aircraft, does this mean that the rest have to be hired off the street?? Someone has to fill those seats. Are there enough additional pilots at the carrier that bought them to fill them or are they having to lay off pilots because of the 150 that are coming over?? If not, it seems that they all should be allowed to go.

Sorry, I haven't been keeping up with this situation, as you can see.